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Old March 5 2013, 05:39 PM   #1411
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Re: The Walking Dead Season 3

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OK Nitpick time.
1. Convenient, isn't it?

2. Because he's nuts.

3. Maybe he was aiming for the head and missed.

4. Because he's nuts.

5. (reason for booby traps) Because he's nuts.

6. Because he's-- oh, right.

I'm not sure all zombies know how to turn doorknobs. Morgan's wife was doing so because they appear to retain a little association with some things, and that was her home.
Umm.. Because he’s nuts doesn’t cover it, you don’t set up all those elaborate traps, have a mass storage of weapons, have a system for clearing out the town, finding food and so on and then claim “Because he’s nuts”.

If he is that nuts he would just eat a gun.

The house Morgan and Duane was in was not theirs, I would think retaining some memory how to do things would apply to most zombies, there was 10 plus in the bar, none of them retained the memory on how to open a door?

Again one of those things that drives me nuts, Carl can shoot a hair off a gnat’s @ss in dozens of episodes but all off a sudden he misses Morgan’s head from 10 feet away and shoots at his chest?

All of our heroes for that matter can get a head shot from 30-50 away on a dead run, from a moving vehicle, through chain link fences and so on (with a pistol no less) but when a character is not supposed to die they can’t hit the broad side of a barn.
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Old March 5 2013, 06:04 PM   #1412
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All of our heroes for that matter can get a head shot from 30-50 away on a dead run, from a moving vehicle, through chain link fences and so on (with a pistol no less) but when a character is not supposed to die they can’t hit the broad side of a barn.
Its the Star Wars Stormtrooper effect. In the original Star Wars, Stormtroopers were absolutely lethal in the film's opening attack on the rebel ship, but later on, when they were fighting with the heroes of the film, they may as well have been shooting in the opposite direction while standing on their heads..with Nerf guns.

In other words, to advance a necessary part of the plot, Carl--like Stormtroopers--cannot deliver a fatal shot to a character who is important. We may not see Morgan again, but for the episode, he was as important as the series leads.
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Old March 5 2013, 06:10 PM   #1413
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All of our heroes for that matter can get a head shot from 30-50 away on a dead run, from a moving vehicle, through chain link fences and so on (with a pistol no less) but when a character is not supposed to die they can’t hit the broad side of a barn.
Its the Star Wars Stormtrooper effect. In the original Star Wars, Stormtroopers were absolutely lethal in the film's opening attack on the rebel ship, but later on, when they were fighting with the heroes of the film, they may as well have been shooting in the opposite direction while standing on their heads..with Nerf guns.

In other words, to advance a necessary part of the plot, Carl--like Stormtroopers--cannot deliver a fatal shot to a character who is important. We may not see Morgan again, but for the episode, he was as important as the series leads.
Oh no I get it, and normally it doesn't bother me that much but in this episode the writers put so much of that kind of crap in to advance the story that it kept a good episode from being a great episode (IMO).
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Old March 5 2013, 06:54 PM   #1414
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Umm.. Because he’s nuts doesn’t cover it, you don’t set up all those elaborate traps, have a mass storage of weapons, have a system for clearing out the town, finding food and so on and then claim “Because he’s nuts”.

If he is that nuts he would just eat a gun.
I don't think all people above a certain level of insanity will automatically commit suicide. If they did, the world would be a much simpler place.

Just think of him as "crazy like a fox". Dahmer- or Ridgeway-level insane.

The house Morgan and Duane was in was not theirs
I thought it was. If it wasn't, I sure don't have an explanation for the doorknob thing, but then I also don't know why the wife-zombie was followng him around.
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Old March 5 2013, 07:06 PM   #1415
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I found a pretty neat map that shows the various locations of where everyone is and what events happened where.

Enjoy!

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...,1.175537&z=10
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Old March 5 2013, 07:26 PM   #1416
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I found a pretty neat map that shows the various locations of where everyone is and what events happened where.

Enjoy!

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...,1.175537&z=10

Damn!! Rick walked 11.8 miles from the hospital to the house Morgan was in, in the first episode.

AND he walked past his own to get there. LOL
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...201965&spn=1.2


And Woodbury is 2.1 miles from the prison. LOL

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...,1.175537&z=10
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Old March 5 2013, 07:41 PM   #1417
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Those are shooting locations, not where the actual sites are meant to be. Rick and Morgan aren't from Atlanta, for example.
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Old March 5 2013, 07:43 PM   #1418
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Those are shooting locations, not where the actual sites are meant to be. Rick and Morgan aren't from Atlanta, for example.

I know that silly biscuit I just thought it was kinda funny.
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Old March 5 2013, 07:50 PM   #1419
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Those are shooting locations, not where the actual sites are meant to be. Rick and Morgan aren't from Atlanta, for example.
I was just going to post the same thing. LOL. For example, they used the Cobb Energy Center - a new building that is a performance center which is located in Cobb county not remotly close to the CDC to stand in as the CDC because the actual CDC building is kind of boring. LOL
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Old March 5 2013, 07:56 PM   #1420
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Those are shooting locations, not where the actual sites are meant to be. Rick and Morgan aren't from Atlanta, for example.
I was just going to post the same thing. LOL. For example, they used the Cobb Energy Center - a new building that is a performance center which is located in Cobb county not remotly close to the CDC to stand in as the CDC because the actual CDC building is kind of boring. LOL
Yep, as I said in the other post I get that, what made me look for something like this is my GF and I were talking about the episode and we both agreed that we thought the prison should be a LOOOONG way away from the police station and why would Rick pick that area to travel back to, in all actual reality they are only a little more than 38 miles from each other so...
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Old March 5 2013, 07:58 PM   #1421
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It might be interesting if someone made a fictional map showing where all these same places are supposed to be "in-universe".
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Old March 5 2013, 07:59 PM   #1422
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It might be interesting if someone made a fictional map showing where all these same places are supposed to be "in-universe".
agreed.

I think there is one like that for the comic book locations.
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Old March 5 2013, 09:49 PM   #1423
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^^ Gas... A car on a showroom floor has little to no gas in it for safety reasons... A car plucked randomly by the roadside probably has a good bit more gas, or at least it's around cars that can be siphoned..

One hopes that if Hyundai is a sponsor, they weren't too upset about their crossover vehicle having trouble with a little mud.. LOL...

Gas? seriously? That's your reason for the choice in vehicles? You don't think anyone in the group knows how to syphon gas? (Daryl)
And if you actually read the post, you'd read that I addressed siphoning.... You think they're going to risk going into a larger town (where there are more places for walkers to hide) and risk going to a dealership (again, more walkers), finding a car they like and then looking around back on the street (again with the walkers) for cars to siphon from?

Or would it be easier to find a servicable car along the road, take it and then be able to park right next to a car they can siphon from? Sure, there could be walkers in among the trees, but they are easy to pick off if you have a look out, and except when a herd is rolling through, aren't usually in large, concentrated numbers like was seen in the town scenes.
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Old March 5 2013, 09:59 PM   #1424
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Or would it be easier to find a servicable car along the road, take it and then be able to park right next to a car they can siphon from? Sure, there could be walkers in among the trees, but they are easy to pick off if you have a look out, and except when a herd is rolling through, aren't usually in large, concentrated numbers like was seen in the town scenes.
BTW, larger car dealerships here in GA have their own buried underground gas tanks.
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Old March 5 2013, 10:06 PM   #1425
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"Clear" SUCKED.

I don't understand people claiming "Clear" was "the best episode yet". It was so full of problems.

Rick and Michonne essentially murdered the Hitchhiker. Michonne's ugly cat was more important that that man's life. And do you believe you will ever see that crap cat again?

They already had baby cribs at the daycare center where Darryl and Maggie got the baby formula the day the baby was born. They chose not to get one when they were already there (probably more than once) and was closer to the prison.

Morgan wanted to clear the entire world of Walkers, yet kept the local Grille restaurant one block away fully occupied with 10 Walkers and with an unlocked door? The back door was unlocked too, as that's how Michonne went back in to get her gay cat statue which she just whipped out of nowhere.

Didn't Merle say the Governor probably had snipers on every road out of the prison to pluck them off when they tried to leave?

They go all that way to find the police station locker room empty, but they don't bother to look in the one dozen bullet boxes scattered all over the floor? Or the desk drawers?

The hitchhiker is carrying a cooking skillet hanging off his backpack? Doesn't that indicate he was carrying food which they said at the prison they were running out of the previous episode? I saw it. The three of them didn't?

How could they be running out of food at the prison when they had wall-to-wall shelves full of food just one month earlier?

Morgan murdered innocent people to hoard their guns. Merle murders. The Governor murders. Michonne murders. Shane murders. Rick murders. Maggie murdered Hayley the teenage girl when they rescued Darryl and Merle from the Arena. Carl shoots Morgan now. You're running out of characters to like.

They said they need all the guns at the police station but appear to only take one bag from Morgan.

Michonne said Carl needed a box to carry the crib so she went with them, then they carried the crib back without a box. They said they were running out of baby formula. They get the crib, but not any baby formula which was vital? As the cop, Rick didn't know a single person in the town who had a baby so they can search the house?

Unless the Axe trap was spring loaded with great pressure, just having it fall would probably only cut someone and pushed them down the stairs, yet it was covered with blood deep to the handle.

The axe was covered with bright red blood, yet anybody who ever removed an old band-aid knows old blood turns brick-red or brown. I still can't believe the FX guys keep doing "bright red" old blood. It's practically fluorescent.

Why was the axe trap all bloody but the welcome mat trap wasn't? Why didn't Rick toss the welcome matt aside so Carl wouldn't fall into it and so they wouldn't forget. Why didn't they trip the axe trap after they passed it so they wouldn't forget? How did Morgan manage to dig a square hole into the concrete sidewalk to lay the welcome mat trap with spikes?

Rick and Michonne saw the live birds in the cages in the street traps. They KNEW someone was there feeding them. They KNEW the street was occupied by a crazy person. They went in anyway.

It appears the hitchhiker may have come from the car accident, as the bodies they saw in the cars looked fresh. Which means the hitchhiker would know they just went through a town, but he goes forward to uncertainty. He had to have passed through the town anyway even if he came from elsewhere. Why didn't he grab a car from the town? And why didn't Morgan kill the hitchhiker for his backpack when he passed through? That's what Morgan does now isn't it?

Michonne had a crossbow when they loaded the car at the end (probably for Darryl). I wished they showed her picking it up, because now Darryl will have TWO crossbows and it will confuse people.

When Morgan was firing on them from the rooftop, did he tell them to drop their guns and their.... shoes?

How did Michonne teleport in and out of buildings and rooftops?

I still don't understand why they aren't plucking off the Walkers through the prison fence with their sword and knives. Given time, they would take out half of them without a shot fired.

Morgan said he and his son drove for days and/or weeks to Atlanta. But he said his son was killed by his Walker Wife when they were in a house. This means Morgan took off on the road to Atlanta... for days and/or weeks... and then turned around and went back to the town again. Otherwise it means his Walker Wife (Stalker Wife) followed them on foot to Atlanta.

What are the odds that it was Morgan's Walker-Stalker Wife would find their son? Didn't Morgan bother to close the door to the houses they were searching?

Did Morgan say he didn't turn on the walky talky for days? And you blame Rick for not being there when you finally bother to listen - when you knew Rick would have been in a city hours away?

Rick knew he shot that cop Walker in the first episode outside the police station through the fence. He didn't bother to look to see if the body was still their with bullets and a gun?

Rick knew the Bars had guns behind the counters. I thought of that back in season two when Rick and Glenn followed Hershel to the bar where Rick had the shootout with those two guys and ended up with Randall. Even then they never looked behind the bar. Every movie that has a bar fight has a bar owner with his gun.

Rick found out from Morgan's map that his house burned down. But every cop would have guns and/or bullets. What about Shane's house? Rick knew that Walker Cop through the fence in Episode One was turned so probably never made it back to his own house. All Rick needed to do was get a phone book. He knew the names of his co-workers.

Rick also said he signed the gun permits for the Bar Owners. Which means you have a whole list of Gun Owners in that Police Station. Go get it. It would also have their addresses and what types of guns and ammunition you're looking for.

Morgan scrawled on the wall a bunch of names of people who turned. So Morgan was with other people in this town this whole time who slowly got wiped out? And you don't mention this? If Morgan was alone this whole time, how did he know the people who got turned and where they turned?

There would be pictures of Carl's mother in their grandparents house. Both of them. They probably didn't live there but they did live somewhere.

I'm sure some of these could be explained. I'm also sure there are more problems with this episode I haven't covered yet. "Clear" had a LOT of problems. And after a year away from the TrekBBS, I came back just to vent this.
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