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Old March 5 2013, 10:44 AM   #1
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Doctor Who in the Star Trek universe

My simple theory is that the Peter Cushing films are part of the Trek universe - but does that work? I mean, I'm not overly knowledgable on Trek yet. The second one was set in 2150, when the Daleks invaded Earth.

I just think these beasts suit Trek, especially TOS:

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Old March 5 2013, 03:25 PM   #2
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Re: Doctor Who in the Star Trek universe

No, the Cushing movies depict a very different 22nd century than Star Trek does.
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Old March 5 2013, 04:22 PM   #3
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Shouldn't the question be the other way round: Trek in the Who universe? After all, Who covers the whole of space and time, Trek is limited to one galaxy across a few hundred years... ;-)
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Old March 5 2013, 04:37 PM   #4
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Re: Doctor Who in the Star Trek universe

Is that a pic from the actual moive, they look more like CGI, although the movie Daleks were colourful they look too detailed in that pic to be from the movies, plus i am sure the bases were black instead of gold, but i could be wrong, its been a while since i watched them.
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Old March 5 2013, 04:40 PM   #5
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Re: Doctor Who in the Star Trek universe

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No, the Cushing movies depict a very different 22nd century than Star Trek does.
Right. Star Trek: Enterprise begins in 2151, just a year after the second Cushing movie is supposedly set.
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Old March 5 2013, 04:42 PM   #6
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Re: Doctor Who in the Star Trek universe

Both series have the concept of a multiverse (Time tracks/e-space/etc in Who), so I see no reason why they can't peacefully coexist. Just not in the same timeline.
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Old March 5 2013, 05:08 PM   #7
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Perhaps because modern Who has repeatedly referenced Star Trek as a work of fiction? (But then, in "Remembrance of the Daleks" the original series came within one second of referencing itself as a work of fiction...)
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Perhaps because modern Who has repeatedly referenced Star Trek as a work of fiction?
The Cushing movies are not part of Who canon.
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No, the Cushing movies depict a very different 22nd century than Star Trek does.
Right. Star Trek: Enterprise begins in 2151, just a year after the second Cushing movie is supposedly set.
That answers that one then!
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Old March 5 2013, 09:46 PM   #10
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Perhaps because modern Who has repeatedly referenced Star Trek as a work of fiction? (But then, in "Remembrance of the Daleks" the original series came within one second of referencing itself as a work of fiction...)
And in a recent comic strip series, the Doctor managed to visit the Enterprise and work with its crew.

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The Cushing movies are not part of Who canon.
Says who? Says you!
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Old March 5 2013, 10:03 PM   #11
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Is that a pic from the actual moive, they look more like CGI, although the movie Daleks were colourful they look too detailed in that pic to be from the movies, plus i am sure the bases were black instead of gold, but i could be wrong, its been a while since i watched them.
Well, it's possible that's a CG render, but at that resolution, it's hard to determine (at least for me).

However, I will state with reasonable confidence that the red and black Daleks in the first movie did have gold "bumpers". I just ran a Google search and found a few shots that show full length shots of the TechniColor PepperPots. Here's a link...

http://www.google.com/search?q=cushi...w=1366&bih=566

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Old March 6 2013, 02:23 AM   #12
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The Cushing movies are not part of Who canon.
Says who? Says you!
No, they really aren't part of Who canon. In those movies, Cushing plays a character actually named "Doctor Who" who is actually a human inventor.
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Old March 6 2013, 03:22 AM   #13
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My theory is the Cushing films take place in Pete's Universe and Doctor Who is 10.5.
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Old March 6 2013, 03:33 AM   #14
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They do look like they could work in TOS if you took TOS as an entity on its own ignoring the series that follow. Daleks aren't so unlike Nomad.
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Old March 6 2013, 04:06 AM   #15
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My theory is the Cushing films take place in Pete's Universe and Doctor Who is 10.5.
Oooh, I like this one
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