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Old February 27 2013, 01:35 AM   #16
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Re: who the fff... put Troi in that outfit??

It kinda makes sense that she wears civilian clothes because she works with alot of the civilians on the ship. They reinforced the outfits by showing other people wearing rather tight-fitting civilian outfits. Tasha's sister comes to mind. Heck, even Q had to wear spandex when he lost his powers. However, she should have been occasionally wearing her uniform all along.
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Old February 27 2013, 02:58 AM   #17
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Re: who the fff... put Troi in that outfit??

I remember it didn't really bother me much when the show was new. It was noticeable of course, but it just seemed that Picard had offered leeway on his bridge, Wesley's stupid gray 'acting' ensign jumpsuit, Beverly ambling about in an ugly green lab coat, Worf wrapped in a tank tread, & Picard himself experimenting with different fashions, the most laughable of which was his puffy vinyl shoulder pads

Lest we forget, Troi spent most of season one in a gray jumpsuit & an updo. It was far less casual looking than the maroon & lavender suits, but ugly as hell. Heck sometimes you'd see her on the bridge in the teal dress with the oblong neckline

That's why it always struck me as pure hypocrisy for Riker to reprimand Ro for wearing an earring like a stodgy douchebag

I remember watching that scene & thinking "Dress code? On that ship? Are you shitting me?"

It does annoy me a bit in hindsight, but that has more to do with the fact that it became a meme with every Trek show to follow, that the bridge crew had to have someone without a standard Starfleet uniform. That's when it really became ridiculous
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Old February 27 2013, 05:28 AM   #18
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Re: who the fff... put Troi in that outfit??

Jealous of Marina for having the body to wear those outfits, although I have plenty of cleavage if I was to wear on of those jumpsuits the everybody would spontaneously vomit when they see my spare tire.
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Old February 27 2013, 05:32 AM   #19
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Re: who the fff... put Troi in that outfit??

I think the catsuits were Berman's idea. VOY and ENT still had characters wearing them even though Gene Roddenberry had nothing to do with those shows.
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Old February 27 2013, 06:42 AM   #20
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Re: who the fff... put Troi in that outfit??

Imagine Seven of Nine in one of Troi's outfits...
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Old February 27 2013, 10:35 AM   #21
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That would be great!!
I thought that she were's those uniforms to look less formal when she talked with patients.
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Old February 27 2013, 03:25 PM   #22
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Re: who the fff... put Troi in that outfit??

I think it's a result of the fact that they just weren't sure what to do with her character. In the pitot she wore a Uhura-esque uniform. Then they decided to play up her counselor/captains advisor role and make her more like a civilian. Then, as was pointed out by others, they started going back to Troi being a Starfleet officer. I'm betting in some meetings they realized that taking her out of uniform had been a mistake but were unsure how to fix it. Jellico was an easy way to do that.

I like her better in uniform, but I'm a girl. Star Trek has never been above sexing up the women for ratings (watch how Kira's uniform changes over the years on DS9 and of course theres Seven)
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Old February 27 2013, 11:44 PM   #23
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Re: who the fff... put Troi in that outfit??

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I've heard it said that the costume actually makes professional sense. Putting Deanna in an outfit where her rank isn't thrust in the face of her patients. If they were contstantly being reminded (by the uniform and rank pips) that they're being asked to 'fess to a woman who is their Commander as well as their counsellor, a junior officer might be less willing to go to her with their troubles.
That was my take as well.
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Old February 28 2013, 12:05 AM   #24
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Re: who the fff... put Troi in that outfit??

Those first season jumpsuits were the worst though... with those arrows pointing down south a little too exactly.
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Old February 28 2013, 01:57 AM   #25
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Re: who the fff... put Troi in that outfit??

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Imagine Seven of Nine in one of Troi's outfits...
Hmmm...
Although, Seven never looked better than in her outfit for "Workforce", which made me rethink the whole catsuit thing.
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Old February 28 2013, 02:01 AM   #26
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Re: who the fff... put Troi in that outfit??

Putting Troi in a standard uniform was a good move. The miniskirt and jumpsuits weren't flattering. The dress was better for her build but was inappropriate for bridge duty.
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Old March 3 2013, 07:33 AM   #27
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Roddenberry originally wanted to Deanna to have three breasts, and he had to be convinced that it was a stupid idea. We dodged a bullet!
No

We lost the best idea ever.
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Old March 3 2013, 08:26 AM   #28
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Re: who the fff... put Troi in that outfit??

On one hand I can understand why Troi was in civvies most of the time, crewmembers might not feel comfortable with the reminder that she is their superior when they come to talk to her, just as some of the civilians might not like to speak to someone in uniform about their problems.

However, she is an officer in Starfleet and so should have been in uniform when on the Bridge. When Jellico finally gets her back into one, she looks better in it than she ever did in any of her catsuits.

The vast majority of people look good in a fitted uniform, the PTB don't have to rub our faces in the...eh...fact that Troi (not to mention Seven and T'Pol) are women. It's one cliché they really should drop, unless we have a man strutting around in little more than a codpiece to even things up in the next series
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Old March 3 2013, 08:54 AM   #29
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Roddenberry originally wanted to Deanna to have three breasts, and he had to be convinced that it was a stupid idea. We dodged a bullet!
She had a third boob.

His name was Will Riker.
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Old March 3 2013, 06:09 PM   #30
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Roddenberry originally wanted to Deanna to have three breasts, and he had to be convinced that it was a stupid idea. We dodged a bullet!
I'm surprised he didn't recycle the dual belly-buttons from Genesis II.

(The same way he lifted Data from The Questor Tapes and repurposed Decker and Ilia as Riker and Troi.)
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