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Old March 1 2013, 01:05 PM   #241
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Re: La-La Land Records to release 4-disc DS9 soundtrack set!

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It's surely a decision to present the cue as composed rather than the altered version used in the final edit.
Which, in my experience, is the normal practice for soundtrack albums. The whole point of them is to present the music in its pure form, in a way it couldn't be heard in the final film or episode. Using a version that's different from what's in the show isn't making a mistake, it's revealing something new.
Could it also have been a sound engineering issue? Perhaps at this point, they weren't able to dial out the sax as the track is now final? But back in the day, they were working with all the raw elements and could do what they wanted? I'm not sure how that works, but its a thought. It would be cool if FrontierTrek addressed this in the interview that's coming soon!
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Old March 1 2013, 02:55 PM   #242
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^Usually soundtrack albums are assembled from those very raw elements. I think it was just a choice to let us hear the cue as McCarthy originally wrote it. After all, countless soundtrack albums have done the same. It's not some anomaly that needs to be explained; it's the normal practice.
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Old March 1 2013, 06:17 PM   #243
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i like it though i do agree it should've been (alternative)
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Old March 1 2013, 06:30 PM   #244
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My copy arrived yesterday, but I had a splitting headache so didn't open it until today. I haven't listened to any tracks yet, but I was very impressed by the artwork of Sisko, Jadzia, Ezri and Odo on the CDs; the booklet is also very informative.
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Old March 1 2013, 07:58 PM   #245
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Almost forgot guys, I recorded a fantastic interview with Ford A. Thaxton who worked as producer on this soundtrack collection. It's a wonderful companion piece to the set.

Here is Part 1 - up today:
http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/03/ds9...erview-part-i/

Ford offers his insights into the background of this soundtrack project, the origins of a "Lost Album", cue names and the reasons behind the track choices for the set.
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Old March 1 2013, 08:04 PM   #246
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That's a great interview, FrontierTrek. Thanks for sharing!
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Old March 1 2013, 11:17 PM   #247
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Finally got my copy today. Apparently Canada Post redirected it incorrectly :S. Just finished the Call to Arms music and gotta love it. I really think it was a mistake of the Berman era to downplay the music so much.
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Old March 2 2013, 01:39 AM   #248
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Disc 3 is all over the map. David Bell's music worked great with the show but on this disc it really highlights how repetitive of a composer he was.
I agree that listening to Bell's tracks he used the same chord progression over and over again, which when listening to it on a Soundtrack back to back you loose interest. That being said I still really like his music. I think it was much darker and the simple chord progression actually helped the music 'flow' better. Track 17 on Disc 3 Following Throw Pills/Makes Him More Dangerous is my favorite on Disc 3.
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Old March 2 2013, 06:56 AM   #249
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I think the Chattaway disc is the biggest disappointment for me. Almost everything before "Call to Arms" isn't especially interesting (although the "By Inferno's Light" cues have their moments). They should have included more of his emotional cues to balance out the action.

The McCarthy disc is very surprising, in that I find the earlier material to be more interesting than the later, at least as presented here. Who knew that the score from "The Storyteller" was so interesting? Of course, it's virtually dialed out in the episode.
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Old March 2 2013, 08:57 AM   #250
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Thanks as well, FrontierTrek.
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Old March 2 2013, 05:20 PM   #251
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And here is Part 2: http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/03/ds9...rview-part-ii/
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Old March 2 2013, 09:34 PM   #252
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Section 31 1/2 wrote: View Post
Just based upon the clips
Disc one sounds like general McCarthy. The Die is Cast could be Way of the Warrior almost note for note.
Too good a theme not to reuse, but since that was on Best Of Star Trek Vol 2, I've had that for years, and there are a few dfferences later on. Its funny because I remembered the DS9 cue for the Defiant's arrival, so listening to the Die track and I'm waiting and waiting and waiting...

I don't care for Enterprise in the slightest, not seen any for years, not bought on DVD or anything. But I did buy the soundtrack as it reminded me so much on Generations.

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Listened to most of the CDs on a long trip today. I think my favorite is the fourth CD plus the music from "The Visitor" (LOVE it).
There's more from The Visitor on The Best Of Star Trek 30th Anniversary, in fact the one track on this set is a direct duplicat from there.

I think for my digital archive I'll add the WOTW and Visitor tracks where they belong. If I don't go the whole hog and sort everything into episode order.

I've already added the closing titles to my Emissary folder!

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I think the Chattaway disc is the biggest disappointment for me. Almost everything before "Call to Arms" isn't especially interesting (although the "By Inferno's Light" cues have their moments). They should have included more of his emotional cues to balance out the action.
Interesting you say that, because I'm very much in agreement. I copied CD2 on to my phone and the track listings aren't (or weren't) up so it was just track 1-23, and there wasn't anything before Call To Arms I could place. It all just sounded like either his Descent or Caretaker tracks already on CD.

CD3 - Another 1 or 2 tracks from Sacrifice Of Angels and I'd have been so happy, still can't win em all.
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Old March 2 2013, 10:59 PM   #253
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From trekcore.com and their interview with Ford A. Thaxton:

"In the last show, there’s a big montage at the end, showing everybody going their separate ways, right? Dennis wrote the piece, which incorporates this other song, this jazzy, marvelous…Rick Berman himself had some issue with it; he thought it was too jazzy, so he took out the saxophone or the trumpet or something. In this particular release, we went back to the way Dennis had done it originally; the way it was all approved – up until Rick went down to the dub stage. That is what was supposed to be there, and if anybody wants to be really industrious, they can extract it and put it against the visuals – they’ll see it’s awesome."
You got it, Mr. Thaxton!

Here it is in all its jazzy glory! I left the dialogue in the beginning, but I have the music louder since this video is about the music after all!

SD version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du7bqrl2a9g

Here it is upconverted and scaled up to 16:9 if anyone cares for that sort of thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY7lELcpfjs
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Old March 2 2013, 11:48 PM   #254
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Just wanted to see if anyone who ordered the CDs from Canada have got them yet? I checked my status last week and as of last Tuesday it says arrived in Canada at customs for processing. Just wanted to see.
Mine arrived here in Australia beginning of last week.
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Old March 3 2013, 01:37 AM   #255
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I might be in the minority, but I happen to enjoy all of the Chattaway disc. I think it's great that there is more of his Trek music on disc, following the initial TNG Vol. 4 from GNP Crescendo and disc 2 of the TNG set from La-La Land. His cues from "The Search" I really dig, along with the more moody, suspenseful work from "Broken Link". Admittedly, "Call to Arms" is the centerpiece and highlight of the disc, hard to argue against that one, but I personally find it a fun listen from start to finish.

Also, I really am enjoying the McCarthy disc, but I was already a fan of his work previously.
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