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Old February 28 2013, 08:15 AM   #31
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Re: Anybody remember "Gargoyles"?

This was definitely one of the very best cartoons from my childhood, rivaling Batman:TAS.

Heck, I'd say one of the very best period.
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Old February 28 2013, 10:16 AM   #32
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Re: Anybody remember "Gargoyles"?

it was good, almost as dark as Batman. There were a lot of good cartoons back then, especially from Disney. Loved Goof Troop, Tale Spin was Air/Steampunk before there WAS Air/Steampunk, and Bonkers was a great spiritual successor to Who Framed Rodger Rabbit and a great homage to old school cartoons.
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Old February 28 2013, 10:16 AM   #33
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Re: Anybody remember "Gargoyles"?

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Yes, it's up there with Batman as one of my all-time favorites.
Ditto. A Disney cartoon that wasn't about cute talking animals for once.
Well, I liked those too. They were just a different type of cartoon.

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This was definitely one of the very best cartoons from my childhood, rivaling Batman:TAS.

Heck, I'd say one of the very best period.
We are totally twins.
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Old February 28 2013, 11:23 AM   #34
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JD, watch it, it's really good! If you like it, please consider buying the DVDs of season 1 (13 episodes) and season 2, part 1 (26 episodes). There's still a chance Disney will release the missing 26 episodes of season 2, there are a few shows that get continued after years of nothing.

I just remembered something weird about the first episode, the opening sequence was shown at the end right before the end credits. I get that they didn't want to start the episode with the opening because it would have spoiled what was going to happen, but why didn't they drop it completely from that episode?
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Old February 28 2013, 12:49 PM   #35
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Re: Anybody remember "Gargoyles"?

Loved the show a lot. I think I learned more about Shakespeare from Gargoyles then I did from High School english class

You had Macbeth and characters from it and then you had the fairies from Midsummer Night's Dream.
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Old February 28 2013, 03:29 PM   #36
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Loved the show a lot. I think I learned more about Shakespeare from Gargoyles then I did from High School english class

You had Macbeth and characters from it and then you had the fairies from Midsummer Night's Dream.
Although, of course, Gargoyles's version of Macbeth was far more historically accurate than Shakespeare's. (The king at the time, James I, was believed to be a descendant of Banquo, so Macbeth had to be written as a villain. It may be that Shakespeare's own sources for the play were themselves distorted and propagandistic in their portrayal of Macbeth, since history is written by the victors and Macbeth lost.) Most of the human monarchs and nobles who appear in the historical flashbacks in the show were real people, aside from the Castle Wyvern characters.
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Old February 28 2013, 04:33 PM   #37
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Re: Anybody remember "Gargoyles"?

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This was definitely one of the very best cartoons from my childhood, rivaling Batman:TAS.

Heck, I'd say one of the very best period.
We are totally twins.


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Although, of course, Gargoyles's version of Macbeth was far more historically accurate than Shakespeare's. (The king at the time, James I, was believed to be a descendant of Banquo, so Macbeth had to be written as a villain. It may be that Shakespeare's own sources for the play were themselves distorted and propagandistic in their portrayal of Macbeth, since history is written by the victors and Macbeth lost.) Most of the human monarchs and nobles who appear in the historical flashbacks in the show were real people, aside from the Castle Wyvern characters.
As somebody who's probably descended from Duncan, I've kinda always preferred Shakespeare's take...
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Old February 28 2013, 06:14 PM   #38
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Yes, it's up there with Batman as one of my all-time favorites.
Ditto. A Disney cartoon that wasn't about cute talking animals for once.
Well, I liked those too. They were just a different type of cartoon.
I never said I hated the others, just that Gargoyles was a refreshing change.

(DuckTales, Talespin and Darkwing Duck were the best of the rest...)
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Old February 28 2013, 08:15 PM   #39
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(DuckTales, Talespin and Darkwing Duck were the best of the rest...)
What about Rescue Rangers?

Back to Gargoyles, I never saw the 'new animation' season 3 eps until I did my rewatch. I take it they used Jasmine from "Aladdin" as a model? That animation was wretched
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Old March 1 2013, 12:09 AM   #40
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(DuckTales, Talespin and Darkwing Duck were the best of the rest...)
What about Rescue Rangers?
They're okay, but they can't beat dialogue like this:

"I am the terror that flaps in the night! I am the toothpaste you can't squeeze back into the tube! I am DARKWING DUCK!"
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Old March 1 2013, 01:57 AM   #41
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(DuckTales, Talespin and Darkwing Duck were the best of the rest...)
What about Rescue Rangers?

Back to Gargoyles, I never saw the 'new animation' season 3 eps until I did my rewatch. I take it they used Jasmine from "Aladdin" as a model? That animation was wretched
Except for the one episode where Proteus showed up again. I wish ALL of the eps were animated that way. It was done with movie quality animation work in my opinion.
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Old March 1 2013, 05:15 AM   #42
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The Disney Afternoon... and where I lived, you got Batman TAS right after. And Gargoyles was so full of win... How many times as a young Trekkie, did I crack up when Demona and Xanatos sparred?
Both series made me read Shakespeare and enjoy it.
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Old March 1 2013, 05:24 AM   #43
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(DuckTales, Talespin and Darkwing Duck were the best of the rest...)
What about Rescue Rangers?
They're okay, but they can't beat dialogue like this:

"I am the terror that flaps in the night! I am the toothpaste you can't squeeze back into the tube! I am DARKWING DUCK!"
Fun as Darkwing was, I'd have to put it fourth after DuckTales, Talespin and Rescue Rangers myself. Not in that order though, probably the reverse.
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Old March 1 2013, 03:33 PM   #44
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Darkwing was weird for me, because it was superficially in the DuckTales universe but didn't really fit with it stylistically. DuckTales was a very Disneyesque cartoon universe; aside from the anthropomorphic animals and fantasy phenomena, it tended to be relatively naturalistic. If Scrooge McDuck fell out of a plane without a parachute, you knew he'd die if he hit the ground and would need to be saved before then. But if Darkwing fell out of a plane and hit the ground, he'd just turn into an accordion for a bit and then be fine once they cut to a new scene. Because Darkwing Duck was set in more of a Warner Bros./Looney Tunes universe than a Disney universe. Darkwing was really a thinly veiled copy of Daffy Duck in Stupor Duck/Scarlet Pumpernickel/Duck Dodgers mode, albeit Disneyfied and domesticated by giving him an adoptive daughter -- and a little more competent than Daffy in that he actually succeeded in stopping the bad guys most of the time.
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Old March 1 2013, 04:54 PM   #45
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I loved Gargoyles growing up, I should go back at re-watch it sometime. Though it's sad to hear not all of it has been released on DVD yet.

Oh and I loved DuckTales and Tailspin. I still use the line 'Any landing you walk away from is a good one' which I picked up from launchpad McQuack

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