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Old February 26 2013, 09:09 PM   #106
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^I like that they'll smash/deface all his stuff...or something like that

Surprised no one has mentioned this
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Old February 27 2013, 12:02 AM   #107
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He will just fade away. Despite all his other screw ups, that's who he really is.
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Old February 27 2013, 02:52 AM   #108
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^ Was it salmon chanted evening?

At least you didn't spend the whole night downloading prawn from the net.
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Ok I'm hooked....
Reelly now, don't you think we oyster stop the fishy puns?
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Old February 28 2013, 12:09 AM   #109
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As a Catholic, I actually look sideways at people who hate on gays and people who are different. Why? JESUS HIMSELF SAID "Love one another as I love you."

God is LOVE. God loves all of His creations, so it's so contradictory to see a person of God hating on gay people.

I personally am not a fan of abortion, but I won't go picketing. I myself wouldn't abort a baby if I got pregnant, but I won't condemn women who do because they're probably in a bad place in life and they need LOVE and understanding, not hate and rejection.


I hope the new pope is a little less tightassed about gay rights and condoms.
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Old February 28 2013, 12:45 AM   #110
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He'll also keep the white papal garb with the exception of the cape and red shoes.
We all know he will miss the shoes most.
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Old February 28 2013, 03:00 AM   #111
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^ Was it salmon chanted evening?

At least you didn't spend the whole night downloading prawn from the net.
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Ok I'm hooked....
Reelly now, don't you think we oyster stop the fishy puns?
Absolutely not. Go tell all of your friends and family. You can start with your uncles and anchovy.
(okay, now that one was reaching, just a bit )
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Old February 28 2013, 10:26 AM   #112
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God is LOVE. God loves all of His creations......I personally am not a fan of abortion, but I won't go picketing. I myself wouldn't abort a baby if I got pregnant, but I won't condemn women who do because they're probably in a bad place in life and they need LOVE and understanding, not hate and rejection.
But you contradict yourself. Rejecting (as in condemning) a person who does something someone might find immoral is wrong because they need "love and understanding", but rejecting (as in, denying all responsibility for and actively killing) the developing baby is somehow okay? Why are we allowed to reject the foetus? I thought we were to love all of God's creations? The developing baby isn't one of God's creations, then? If it is contradictory for a person of God to hate homosexuals, because, as you argue, this violates the concept of all God's creations deserving love, is it not contradictory for a person of God to condone the destruction of, and deny all empathy or care for, one of God's creations, as you do here?

I'm genuinely curious; how do you reconcile this illogic?
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Old February 28 2013, 11:36 AM   #113
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I hope the new pope is a little less tightassed about gay rights and condoms.
Alas, I think this is unlikely, as much as I wish it were so.

The Catholic Church's biggest following right now is in Africa, and several of the top candidates for the White Dress and Red Pumps are from African churches, which as a general rule hold to the "traditional" (read: dark ages) opinions on such matters even more fiercely than European Catholics.

Meanwhile, if the church were to choose another European pope to lead the show (jazz hands!) in an attempt to appear less draconian, they offend where their largest remaining power base is.

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Old February 28 2013, 01:54 PM   #114
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A new pope has an opportunity to correct Ratzingers biggest mistake. By which I mean, failing to take the name George-Ringo.
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Old February 28 2013, 03:02 PM   #115
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God is LOVE. God loves all of His creations......I personally am not a fan of abortion, but I won't go picketing. I myself wouldn't abort a baby if I got pregnant, but I won't condemn women who do because they're probably in a bad place in life and they need LOVE and understanding, not hate and rejection.
But you contradict yourself. Rejecting (as in condemning) a person who does something someone might find immoral is wrong because they need "love and understanding", but rejecting (as in, denying all responsibility for and actively killing) the developing baby is somehow okay? Why are we allowed to reject the foetus?
... Love 'em all, let God sort 'em out?

_C_ doesn't sound likely to become an abortionist herself, so she indicates that other women's decisions aren't her business. Sounds good to moi...
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Old February 28 2013, 03:40 PM   #116
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^ Indeed.

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God is LOVE. God loves all of His creations......I personally am not a fan of abortion, but I won't go picketing. I myself wouldn't abort a baby if I got pregnant, but I won't condemn women who do because they're probably in a bad place in life and they need LOVE and understanding, not hate and rejection.
But you contradict yourself. Rejecting (as in condemning) a person who does something someone might find immoral is wrong because they need "love and understanding", but rejecting (as in, denying all responsibility for and actively killing) the developing baby is somehow okay? Why are we allowed to reject the foetus? I thought we were to love all of God's creations? The developing baby isn't one of God's creations, then? If it is contradictory for a person of God to hate homosexuals, because, as you argue, this violates the concept of all God's creations deserving love, is it not contradictory for a person of God to condone the destruction of, and deny all empathy or care for, one of God's creations, as you do here?

I'm genuinely curious; how do you reconcile this illogic?
To be fair, I don't think cross-examining religious folks who have reasonable, nuanced beliefs that understand that others might not share their personal moral code and are respectful and tolerant of that fact is really the way to go. C's stance seems like it should be the ideal, not something we should criticize as illogical. Knowing you, I know you are just curious and don't intend to sound that way, but it does come across as needlessly adversarial.
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Old February 28 2013, 06:27 PM   #117
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^ Indeed.

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God is LOVE. God loves all of His creations......I personally am not a fan of abortion, but I won't go picketing. I myself wouldn't abort a baby if I got pregnant, but I won't condemn women who do because they're probably in a bad place in life and they need LOVE and understanding, not hate and rejection.
But you contradict yourself. Rejecting (as in condemning) a person who does something someone might find immoral is wrong because they need "love and understanding", but rejecting (as in, denying all responsibility for and actively killing) the developing baby is somehow okay? Why are we allowed to reject the foetus? I thought we were to love all of God's creations? The developing baby isn't one of God's creations, then? If it is contradictory for a person of God to hate homosexuals, because, as you argue, this violates the concept of all God's creations deserving love, is it not contradictory for a person of God to condone the destruction of, and deny all empathy or care for, one of God's creations, as you do here?

I'm genuinely curious; how do you reconcile this illogic?
To be fair, I don't think cross-examining religious folks who have reasonable, nuanced beliefs that understand that others might not share their personal moral code and are respectful and tolerant of that fact is really the way to go. C's stance seems like it should be the ideal, not something we should criticize as illogical. Knowing you, I know you are just curious and don't intend to sound that way, but it does come across as needlessly adversarial.
Yes, you're right, Locutus. Reading over it, I do come across as rather rudely aggressive there, and somewhat single-minded.

_C_, please accept my apology for the tone, and for any offence or hurt caused.

I've been in a bit of a terse mood all day, and it seems I let that colour my interactions with people here. I sort of dug my teeth in without cause there, and I apologise.
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Old March 1 2013, 01:05 AM   #118
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Old March 1 2013, 01:06 AM   #119
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I want an African Pope, just to see how well Racism and Religion really holds together.
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Old March 1 2013, 01:11 AM   #120
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I hope the new pope is a little less tightassed about gay rights and condoms.
Okay I lol'd at the picture this gave me..
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