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Old February 27 2013, 10:27 PM   #1
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Rise like lions ideas on the Mirror universe?

really liked this novel but have a few questions for speculation.

It seems to suggest, that the mirror universe may soon have its own dominion war.

Think the Galactic commonwealth would break down under such a thing?

on another note... Any ideas what the Surviving members of the Mirror Ferengi Alliance will do when their homeworld was casually annihilated, just for Recognizing Earths Sovereighty?

Had to have been a few Ferengi still offworld, as quickly as Ferengi tend to die in the Mirror universe.
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Old February 27 2013, 10:50 PM   #2
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Re: Rise like lions ideas on the Mirror universe?

I doubt we'll ever get a follow up to that. After the developments of the last novel, its pretty unrecognizable as the "mirror universe" most people think of.
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Old February 28 2013, 01:48 AM   #3
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Re: Rise like lions ideas on the Mirror universe?

quite likely, unless something happens, to destroy the common wealth

But curious any guesses what happens to the mirror Ferengi alliance, am morbidly curious... become a solitary race of scavengers, or maybe turn to piracy, turning more aggressive, as the federation universe ferengi turn less so.
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Old February 28 2013, 02:08 AM   #4
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Re: Rise like lions ideas on the Mirror universe?

What I want to know is this: (MAJOR SPOILER WARNING)

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Old February 28 2013, 02:29 AM   #5
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Re: Rise like lions ideas on the Mirror universe?

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What I want to know is this: (MAJOR SPOILER WARNING)

I guess I never really thought of it as a hanging thread. I mean, Memory Omega was created using Genesis-like technology. I just assumed that, with 100 years of nothing to do but research and development, the inhabitants of MO and the other repositories were able to advance greatly.

At least that's how my mind made it fit in. Maybe David will chime in eventually.

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Old February 28 2013, 02:36 AM   #6
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Re: Rise like lions ideas on the Mirror universe?

^ I swear I heard that suggestion I posted, right here on this forum. I wouldn't have thought of it if I didn't see it here.
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Old February 28 2013, 02:52 AM   #7
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Re: Rise like lions ideas on the Mirror universe?

Mr. Laser Beam wrote: View Post
What I want to know is this: (MAJOR SPOILER WARNING)

I actually hadn't thought of that when I was writing the book; to be honest, the notion didn't occur to me until after it was written and I had started binge-watching Fringe — and then I said to myself, "Of course!"
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Old February 28 2013, 02:58 AM   #8
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Re: Rise like lions ideas on the Mirror universe?

To find out where Memory Omega got its technology, we use Lieutenant Papaya. This is upsetting, because he is the friendliest of fruits.
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Old February 28 2013, 03:56 AM   #9
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Re: Rise like lions ideas on the Mirror universe?

Mr. Laser Beam wrote: View Post
^ I swear I heard that suggestion I posted, right here on this forum. I wouldn't have thought of it if I didn't see it here.
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Congrats to David Mack on an excellent book!
First, I'm glad you liked the book. Thanks for the kind words.

As to some of your questions, I have speculative answers to some, but I'm keeping those under my hat for the time being, just in case I end up writing another Mirror Universe novel someday. Let's just say that if one combined the TV series Fringe with the TNG episode "Parallels," one would have a good idea where Memory Omega is getting its brilliant technology.

Regarding the Klingons' and Cardassians' slaughter of their former-Terran Empire slaves, my thinking was that they each eliminated only those within their unique sphere of control — i.e., inside the Cardassian Union and the Klingon Empire proper; the jointly controlled territory of the Alliance, which included the former Terran worlds, would not be under either power's exclusive jurisdiction, nor would it harbor any targets of strategic value equal to those inside the native territories. That's why the Purges didn't hit those worlds to anywhere near the same degree.

As for the "class" of the MU Enterprise and her sister ships, I saw them as being something completely different from anything we've ever seen before. I avoided naming their "class" for exactly that reason, and chose to refer to them simply as "jaunt ships" (a nod to a classic Stephen King short story, "The Jaunt".)

While I understand why some readers might think this could have been a 600-page story, I think the story is exactly the length it needed to be. Some things are better left to the imagination, in my opinion, and it's always fun to leave room for future explorations.
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Old February 28 2013, 06:48 AM   #10
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Re: Rise like lions ideas on the Mirror universe?

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^ I swear I heard that suggestion I posted, right here on this forum. I wouldn't have thought of it if I didn't see it here.
Whoa, slow down there a minute Laser Beam and calm yourself just a tad. I believe you. I didn't call you a liar or say you made it up or anything. I merely pointed out that I didn't consider it a hanging thread; that I'd already worked out the situation in my mind in a way that let me enjoy the book and not continue to worry about it once I was finished.

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Old February 28 2013, 12:24 PM   #11
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Re: Rise like lions ideas on the Mirror universe?

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really liked this novel but have a few questions for speculation.

It seems to suggest, that the mirror universe may soon have its own dominion war.

Think the Galactic commonwealth would break down under such a thing?
If the Commonwealth were to collapse, that would basically defeat the entire purpose of the Memory Omega/Spock's Plan arc Mack started in The Sorrows of Empire.
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Old February 28 2013, 06:28 PM   #12
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Re: Rise like lions ideas on the Mirror universe?

Hey, the best laid plans and all that. Hari Seldon didn't forsee the rise of the mule and MU Spock couldn't have seen the Dominion coming. The story is in overcoming unforseen problems, but I don't have to tell you guys that.
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Old February 28 2013, 10:12 PM   #13
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Re: Rise like lions ideas on the Mirror universe?

Honestly, with the kind of technology that the Commonwealth has (thanks to Memory Omega), they could pulverize the Dominion inside of a month.
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Old February 28 2013, 10:19 PM   #14
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Re: Rise like lions ideas on the Mirror universe?

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Honestly, with the kind of technology that the Commonwealth has (thanks to Memory Omega), they could pulverize the Dominion inside of a month.
Hell they could probably do that just by the fact that they have Genesis.

It's basically a non-nuclear power declaring a war on a nuclear power that doesn't have to worry about any ramifications of using the things. It would not end well for the non-nuclear power.
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Old March 1 2013, 02:19 AM   #15
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Re: Rise like lions ideas on the Mirror universe?

I'm not that curious about the MU Dominion - I'm sure it's the same as the RU version.

The MU Borg, on the other hand...they're different enough that I am very curious about them. They could have a completely different origin. And since there obviously can't be a MU Destiny, I'm almost totally sure that's the case.
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