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Old February 27 2013, 06:20 AM   #1261
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I wouldn't call Merle a coward. He did serve in the military prior to the plaque.
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Old February 27 2013, 06:31 AM   #1262
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Merle is a coward, because he does what is easy, not what is right, or even smart.
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Old February 27 2013, 06:41 AM   #1263
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You can be physically brave and still be a moral coward.
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Old February 27 2013, 08:21 AM   #1264
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The guys on Talking Dead called Milton "Smithers" and I'm still laughing about it!
so true!
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Old February 27 2013, 09:21 AM   #1265
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Exxxxxcellent.
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Old February 27 2013, 12:30 PM   #1266
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Pavonis wrote: View Post
Merle is a coward, because he does what is easy, not what is right, or even smart.
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You can be physically brave and still be a moral coward.
Right & Right, & that's what he is
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Old February 27 2013, 12:46 PM   #1267
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Merle is the classic example of The Scorpion and the Frog. A scorpion asking a frog to carry him across a river. The frog is afraid of being stung during the trip, but the scorpion argues that if it stung the frog, the frog would sink and the scorpion would drown. The frog agrees and begins carrying the scorpion, but midway across the river the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both. When asked why, the scorpion explains that this is simply its nature. The fable is used to illustrate the view that the behaviour of some creatures, or of some people, is irrepressible, no matter how they are treated and no matter what the consequences.
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Old February 27 2013, 03:29 PM   #1268
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Just caught up on the last couple of episodes.

I'm liking Carol a lot more the past few episodes.

I'm glad they had Michionne actually speak rather than glare and grunt, given the preview for next week I hope she opens up more to Rick.

I forget - does Andrea know that the Governor was keeping heads in containers?

I loved when Andrea ran into Tyreese. I'm guessing in the final battle he'll realise that the Governor is psycho and join Rick (probably after he finds out the Governor tried to seduce Sasha, maybe that'll be the turning point for Andrea as well?)

I hope Maggie kills the Governor.

I'm glad Merle is back, he's such a wildcard and is just plain fun to watch. I don't think Daryl will die for a while.
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Old February 27 2013, 03:38 PM   #1269
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Mojochi wrote: View Post
Pavonis wrote: View Post
Merle is a coward, because he does what is easy, not what is right, or even smart.
Dorian Thompson wrote: View Post
You can be physically brave and still be a moral coward.
Right & Right, & that's what he is
But isn't moral cowardice sacrificing your values because you don't have the courage to defend them?

That's not what Merle is, he doesn't have those values to start with, as far as I can tell he doesn't really care about other people or what is "right" at all.
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Old February 27 2013, 06:21 PM   #1270
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I forget - does Andrea know that the Governor was keeping heads in containers?
Yes. She specifically addresses it with him in the infirmary. He responded that he needed to prepare himself for the harsh realities of the world or some other BS.
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Old February 27 2013, 06:34 PM   #1271
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Merle is the classic example of The Scorpion and the Frog. A scorpion asking a frog to carry him across a river. The frog is afraid of being stung during the trip, but the scorpion argues that if it stung the frog, the frog would sink and the scorpion would drown. The frog agrees and begins carrying the scorpion, but midway across the river the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both. When asked why, the scorpion explains that this is simply its nature. The fable is used to illustrate the view that the behaviour of some creatures, or of some people, is irrepressible, no matter how they are treated and no matter what the consequences.

Commander Chakotay says it was a fox:

Voyager episode - Scorpion
A scorpion was wandering along the bank of the river, wondering how to get to the other side. Suddenly he saw a fox. He asked the fox to take him on his back across the river.
The fox said, "No. If I do that, you'll sting me and I'll drown."
The scorpion assured him, "If I did that, we'd both drown."
So the fox thought about it and finally agreed. So the scorpion climbed up on his back and the fox began to swim. But halfway across the river, the scorpion stung him.
As the poison filled his veins, the fox turned to the scorpion and said, "Why did you do that? Now you'll drown too."
"I couldn't help it," said the scorpion. "It's my nature."
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Old February 27 2013, 06:43 PM   #1272
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I forget - does Andrea know that the Governor was keeping heads in containers?
Yes. She specifically addresses it with him in the infirmary. He responded that he needed to prepare himself for the harsh realities of the world or some other BS.
Ahhh okay thanks. You'd think that would be enough to convince her!
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Old February 27 2013, 07:01 PM   #1273
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Pingfah wrote: View Post
Mojochi wrote: View Post
Pavonis wrote: View Post
Merle is a coward, because he does what is easy, not what is right, or even smart.
Dorian Thompson wrote: View Post
You can be physically brave and still be a moral coward.
Right & Right, & that's what he is
But isn't moral cowardice sacrificing your values because you don't have the courage to defend them?

That's not what Merle is, he doesn't have those values to start with, as far as I can tell he doesn't really care about other people or what is "right" at all.
Even if he's immoral, he's a coward for not doing what's smart and hard, and instead doing what's easy.

When he was chasing Michonne down, the smart thing to do would be to make sure she was killed, either by himself or by zombies. He let her go and assumed that zombies would catch her, and decided to lie to the Governor about the incident. He did the stupid thing instead of the smart thing, and then he lied about it. That's cowardice.
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Old February 27 2013, 07:02 PM   #1274
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I forget - does Andrea know that the Governor was keeping heads in containers?
Yes. She specifically addresses it with him in the infirmary. He responded that he needed to prepare himself for the harsh realities of the world or some other BS.
Ahhh okay thanks. You'd think that would be enough to convince her!
IIRC, Andrea walked in right before or after Michonne broke his Aquarium
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Old February 27 2013, 07:51 PM   #1275
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Why didn't anyone tell Andrea what the Governor did to Maggie? It may have made her mind up about the Governor. The communication is horrible in the show.
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