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Old February 26 2013, 04:20 AM   #331
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This episode is beautifully shot and the score is amazing so far.
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Old February 26 2013, 04:25 AM   #332
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Agreed.... except for their green-screen technique needs some fine-tuning
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Old February 26 2013, 04:34 AM   #333
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While I agree with everything you say and regret the decision to allow Castle to use torture (it's understandable that a man in Castle's position would do it to save his daughter, but Kate should have prevented it, even with the Captain essentially giving them carte blanche), I don't think it's unbelievable in this case that the guy would instantly give up the correct information. He's not a soldier, spy, or true believer, he's just a petty criminal turned hired gun, and since he presumably already got paid for his part he doesn't have any reason to show his former employers any loyalty, especially after taking a bullet for his troubles. I think once Castle established that he was going to cross a line the police wouldn't, that was enough for him to spill the beans.
But the reasons why torture is unreliable have nothing to do with the courage or training of the victim or their ability to resist pain. On the contrary, one of the main reasons is that torture victims will readily lie just to make the pain stop. It's not about being truthful, just about saying what you think the torturer wants to hear. And another main reason is neurological: the trauma of torture actually impairs the brain's ability to recall and report information accurately. So if you need to extract, say, a phone number or an address or the time a bomb is set to go off, then even if the victim isn't lying, they might get a number wrong, or simply be unable to remember a crucial detail, because of the trauma you put them through.

If anything, both of those strike me as things that would be more true with someone who wasn't a mentally disciplined soldier or agent.
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Old February 26 2013, 04:44 AM   #334
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This episode has been excellent so far! Rick's dad!!!! Well that was worth waiting for. I really enjoyed this, and like I mentioned before thought it was beautifully shot and the score as usual was great. Some great acting moments...and the "Casino Royale" thing at the end was perfect. I guess this means we're going back on hiatus?
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Old February 26 2013, 05:15 AM   #335
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Next episode isn't for three weeks? Wonder why.

Anyway... that was a great 2-parter overall, and a very good concluding part. Too often part 1 builds up wonderfully and part 2 ends up being less so. But tonight... they nailed it
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Old February 26 2013, 05:23 AM   #336
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While I agree with everything you say and regret the decision to allow Castle to use torture (it's understandable that a man in Castle's position would do it to save his daughter, but Kate should have prevented it, even with the Captain essentially giving them carte blanche), I don't think it's unbelievable in this case that the guy would instantly give up the correct information. He's not a soldier, spy, or true believer, he's just a petty criminal turned hired gun, and since he presumably already got paid for his part he doesn't have any reason to show his former employers any loyalty, especially after taking a bullet for his troubles. I think once Castle established that he was going to cross a line the police wouldn't, that was enough for him to spill the beans.
But the reasons why torture is unreliable have nothing to do with the courage or training of the victim or their ability to resist pain. On the contrary, one of the main reasons is that torture victims will readily lie just to make the pain stop. It's not about being truthful, just about saying what you think the torturer wants to hear.
No kidding? You mean that thing I said in the very next paragraph of the post you quoted but which you oddly chose to omit here? Thanks for the lecture on the thing I already said, though.
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Old February 26 2013, 05:23 AM   #337
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They usually do this after a sweeps month...I wonder how the ratings are going to be for tonight.
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Old February 26 2013, 09:18 AM   #338
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It was a good episode. There were some cliches but I liked how the whole off the grid thing got addressed. Castle knew his limits and it did not help that the professional he hired backstabbed him. Josh Brolin was kind of cool in that small role. I did not expect that exploding radio thing. It's nice to know that even with the whole off the grid and the mentioned "Taken" - the writers do know the characters.
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Old February 26 2013, 09:53 AM   #339
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^That was James Brolin; Josh is his son.
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Old February 26 2013, 11:17 AM   #340
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Agreed.... except for their green-screen technique needs some fine-tuning
I entered this thread to mention that. Seen it done horribly on other ABC shows too.

The Castle double was pretty distracting too.

Funny how a modest cable show like Covert Affairs can actually go to different countries but big network shows can't (or won't).
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Old February 26 2013, 12:53 PM   #341
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Priroities. Covert Affairs HAS to go to other countries, or the show doesn't work. So they work the budget appropriately. Actors sign on for it, several episodes or even a season is there, etc.

For Castle, it's a novelty gimmick. Would cost a lot to move the whole production there for just part of an episode or so, so easier to just fake it.
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So at the end, it appears Castle is going to tell Martha (and Beckett since she's there) about his father. Do think he'll mention that his father was behind the death in the farmhouse? While the Castle family is forgiving, I don't see Beckett intentionally giving a murderer a pass.

But knowing how smart she is, she will probably figure it out once she hears the story. But by the time Castle and Alexis got home, the whole affair probably got a CIA cover-up.
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Old February 26 2013, 05:24 PM   #343
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Except for the bad green screen as others have mentioned, I really enjoyed this episode. I like that when the oversaturate with the yellow lighting that something cool is going happen.
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Old February 26 2013, 05:42 PM   #344
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I liked it okay...except that I'd really hoped that Alexis would be featured more. This could have been just about any 'race to rescue vulnerable person at risk' episode for all she had anything to actually do onscreen. They've established that she's bright and levelheaded and yet all she did in two episodes was to make a Skype call.

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Old February 26 2013, 06:28 PM   #345
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They've established that she's bright and levelheaded and yet all she did in two episodes was to make a Skype call.</p>

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True that. She deserves a stand out episode for herself and this would have been a good one for that. That said, if I were in her shoes I don't know how to make a Skype call, and I probably would have spent the entire time curled up in a ball and wetting myself, so points to her.
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