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Location: South Dakota
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Divisions, Insignia, Uniforms and Assignment Patches
The colors of the uniforms seem to denote divisions - gold/green for command division, red for services support, and blue for sciences. Then the officers have an assignment insignia on their chest, within which is another symbol. Those symbols are a star, a spiral, and an oval embedded in a circle (more or less). The star is, as far as I can tell, always on gold/green shirts, the spiral is always on the red shirts, and the oval is always on the blue shirts. This pairing of color and symbol strikes me as redundant. Why a color and a symbol that convey the same information? My first thought was that the pairing is deliberately redundant, to aid any individuals with color blindness, or possibly individuals from species with monochromatic vision. My other thought was that the symbols could be mixed-and-matched, with the spiral/oval/star suggesting a subdivision within the larger division denoted by the shirt color. Thus Scotty, for instance, would wear red as an engineer, but as a chief engineer, he could've had a star in his assignment patch to indicate his command authority in engineering. Or the astrobiologist Ann Mulhall could've had an oval in her assignment patch despite wearing services red, to indicate her scientific specialty in the services division. We never saw any other pairings like that, did we? I'll be watching for any throughout my latest tour through TOS. |
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Re: Divisions, Insignia, Uniforms and Assignment Patches
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Commodore
Location: South Dakota
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Re: Divisions, Insignia, Uniforms and Assignment Patches
Though I do like the idea of blue/red/gold designating staff/restricted/unrestricted, something I hadn't considered before. Still, what's with the little symbols in the assignment patches? They still come off as redundant. |
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Re: Divisions, Insignia, Uniforms and Assignment Patches
There doesn't seem to be anything "restricted" about Scotty's line officer status. The badges and colors were a little more mixed in WNMHGB, though not in any kind of system I can figure out. In the regular production run, though, the colors and badges do seem to correspond one-to-one. Justin |
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Re: Divisions, Insignia, Uniforms and Assignment Patches
Official or not, I'd say there could be lots more that we haven't seen. Between division colors and rank and department symbols, one could get a broad variety of shipboard posting indicators by appearance. Plus, we've seen Starbase Commodores in red when you'd think they'd be in command gold. So many combinations should be possible, not strictly the command star w/gold and science oval w/blue, etc. |
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Re: Divisions, Insignia, Uniforms and Assignment Patches
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Re: Divisions, Insignia, Uniforms and Assignment Patches
However, as you'll find out, the delta insignia is also seen on other ships and starbases and also mixed in with the insignias that have no room for these little differentiators, like Decker's insignia from "The Doomsday Machine". So, the shirt colors are likely for divisions but the insignias are something more personal, like a decoration rather than anything meaningful, IMHO. |
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Re: Divisions, Insignia, Uniforms and Assignment Patches
Science patch on Gold from "The Corbomite Maneuver" (and "Mudd's Women") ![]() Science patch on Red from "The Galileo Seven" ![]() Engineering patch on Blue from "Obsession" ![]() Science on Red from "The Lights of Zetar"
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Commodore
Location: South Dakota
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Co-Executive Producer
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Re: Divisions, Insignia, Uniforms and Assignment Patches
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Re: Divisions, Insignia, Uniforms and Assignment Patches
TLOZ is a classic example, as Scotty's insignia switches back and forth a few times...I bet if you had the call sheets for that episode, you could pin it down by each day!
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Re: Divisions, Insignia, Uniforms and Assignment Patches
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Location: In pre-production
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Re: Divisions, Insignia, Uniforms and Assignment Patches
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