scifi film noir films

MadaBidyoni · February 23 2013, 11:10 PM

Hi
do you know about any other scifi film noir films?
i found only these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...es#Sci-fi_noir
thanks

The Borgified Corpse · February 23 2013, 11:24 PM

I'm not even so certain that everything on that list really qualifies as sci-fi noir. I mean, Alien Nation is more of a mis-matched buddy cop movie; more Lethal Weapon than Maltese Falcon.

And does emo despressing sci-fi like Stargate Universe really qualify as noir?

Sean_McCormick · February 24 2013, 12:55 AM

Those seem all to be western-made live-action. I'd guess that anime has many films and series to offer, Ghost in the Shell for example. The two movies are much closer to blade runner estethically than the series, especially the second one which even has 1950ies "retro" cars.

Greg Cox · February 24 2013, 12:59 AM

Their definition of scifi noir seems a little broad. Alphaville and Blade Runner, sure, but I'm not sure about some of those others. Invasion of the Body Snatchers is great, but I would have never linked it to film noir.

1001001 · February 24 2013, 01:44 AM

The first one that came to mind was Dark City, which did make the list.

Not sure about any others.

Bob Morton · February 24 2013, 02:44 PM

Kiss Me Deadly for a true Film-Noir with a scifi touch.

None of the films on the list are true Noirs, in the strict sense. I'd say Bladerunner and The Terminator come close in spirit but they're in color.

MadaBidyoni · February 24 2013, 06:02 PM

Dark City was great.
Blade runner... so-so... nice but nothing more.
why there are so few scifi noir films?

theenglish · February 24 2013, 06:18 PM

From the list, these are the movies that I would actually consider noir BUT I haven't seen them all (some I am including just based on what I know about them) and some I saw so long ago that my memory is blurry:

Alphaville (1965)
Blade Runner (1982)
Johnny Mnemonic (1995)
Strange Days (1995)
12 Monkeys (1995)
Dark City (1998)
eXistenZ (1998)
The Thirteenth Floor (1999)
The Matrix (1999)
Equilibrium (2002)
Looper (2012)

MadaBidyoni · February 24 2013, 06:56 PM

well all the batman & watchmen are noirs too no?

Silvercrest · February 26 2013, 07:00 AM

Yes, I'm certain Adam West and George Clooney would describe their respective turns as Batman as "noir."

MadaBidyoni · February 26 2013, 11:21 AM

i'm serious

it's dark... the dark knight. & about a world gone mad. sex. crime.

btw, why the walking dead is considered as noir? it's not that dark regarding the light. there is not much sex there. crime? i don't think there is crime there. it's survival.

Deckerd · February 26 2013, 12:05 PM

Most of the ones on that list I wouldn't call noir.

Starkers · February 26 2013, 12:24 PM

theenglish wrote:

From the list, these are the movies that I would actually consider noir BUT I haven't seen them all (some I am including just based on what I know about them) and some I saw so long ago that my memory is blurry:

Alphaville (1965)
Blade Runner (1982)
Johnny Mnemonic (1995)
Strange Days (1995)
12 Monkeys (1995)
Dark City (1998)
eXistenZ (1998)
The Thirteenth Floor (1999)
The Matrix (1999)
Equilibrium (2002)
Looper (2012)

Strange Days definitely. From the Wiki list I'd add in Soylent Green as well

SalvorHardin · February 27 2013, 12:55 PM

I don't know if anyone has read it but Alastair Reynolds' Century Rain would make a very good sci-fi noir film.

Enterprise is Great · February 28 2013, 01:37 AM

I've read it and yeah it would make a good sci-fi noir film. So would Reynolds' Chasm City.

February 23 2013, 11:10 PM	#1
MadaBidyoni Lieutenant	scifi film noir films Hi do you know about any other scifi film noir films? i found only these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...es#Sci-fi_noir thanks __________________ Scifi & Fantasy cultural references ...Check it out!

February 23 2013, 11:24 PM	#2
The Borgified Corpse Admiral Location: Making closing arguments with Jack McCoy & Michael Cutter	Re: scifi film noir films I'm not even so certain that everything on that list really qualifies as sci-fi noir. I mean, Alien Nation is more of a mis-matched buddy cop movie; more Lethal Weapon than Maltese Falcon. And does emo despressing sci-fi like Stargate Universe really qualify as noir? __________________ Kegg: "You're a Trekkie. The capacity to quibble over the minutiae of space opera films is your birthright."

February 24 2013, 12:55 AM	#3
Sean_McCormick Captain	Re: scifi film noir films Those seem all to be western-made live-action. I'd guess that anime has many films and series to offer, Ghost in the Shell for example. The two movies are much closer to blade runner estethically than the series, especially the second one which even has 1950ies "retro" cars. __________________ No IE! http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/20...7/BrowserDream http://www.xulplanet.com/ndeakin/arts/reasons.html http://browsehappy.com/

February 24 2013, 12:59 AM	#4
Greg Cox Vice Admiral Location: Oxford, PA	Re: scifi film noir films Their definition of scifi noir seems a little broad. Alphaville and Blade Runner, sure, but I'm not sure about some of those others. Invasion of the Body Snatchers is great, but I would have never linked it to film noir. __________________ www.gregcox-author.com

February 24 2013, 01:44 AM	#5
1001001 Putting the F-U Back in FUN! Location: People's Gaypublic of Drugafornia	Re: scifi film noir films The first one that came to mind was Dark City, which did make the list. Not sure about any others. __________________ “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States...The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge'.” - Isaac Asimov

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February 24 2013, 02:44 PM	#6
Bob Morton Lieutenant Commander Location: BC, Canada	Re: scifi film noir films Kiss Me Deadly for a true Film-Noir with a scifi touch. None of the films on the list are true Noirs, in the strict sense. I'd say Bladerunner and The Terminator come close in spirit but they're in color.

February 24 2013, 06:02 PM	#7
MadaBidyoni Lieutenant	Re: scifi film noir films Dark City was great. Blade runner... so-so... nice but nothing more. why there are so few scifi noir films? __________________ Scifi & Fantasy cultural references ...Check it out!

February 24 2013, 06:18 PM	#8
theenglish Rear Admiral Location: Central America	Re: scifi film noir films From the list, these are the movies that I would actually consider noir BUT I haven't seen them all (some I am including just based on what I know about them) and some I saw so long ago that my memory is blurry: Alphaville (1965) Blade Runner (1982) Johnny Mnemonic (1995) Strange Days (1995) 12 Monkeys (1995) Dark City (1998) eXistenZ (1998) The Thirteenth Floor (1999) The Matrix (1999) Equilibrium (2002) Looper (2012)

February 24 2013, 06:56 PM	#9
MadaBidyoni Lieutenant	Re: scifi film noir films well all the batman & watchmen are noirs too no? __________________ Scifi & Fantasy cultural references ...Check it out!

February 26 2013, 07:00 AM	#10
Silvercrest Rear Admiral Location: Lost in Moria (Arlington, WA, USA)	Re: scifi film noir films Yes, I'm certain Adam West and George Clooney would describe their respective turns as Batman as "noir."

February 26 2013, 11:21 AM	#11
MadaBidyoni Lieutenant	Re: scifi film noir films i'm serious it's dark... the dark knight. & about a world gone mad. sex. crime. btw, why the walking dead is considered as noir? it's not that dark regarding the light. there is not much sex there. crime? i don't think there is crime there. it's survival. __________________ Scifi & Fantasy cultural references ...Check it out!

February 26 2013, 12:05 PM	#12
Deckerd Fleet Arse Location: in the Frozen Wastes	Re: scifi film noir films Most of the ones on that list I wouldn't call noir. __________________ They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance.

February 27 2013, 12:55 PM	#14
SalvorHardin Rear Admiral Location: Star's End	Re: scifi film noir films I don't know if anyone has read it but Alastair Reynolds' Century Rain would make a very good sci-fi noir film. __________________ www.youtube.com/user/SalvorSeldon

February 28 2013, 01:37 AM	#15
Enterprise is Great Rear Admiral	Re: scifi film noir films I've read it and yeah it would make a good sci-fi noir film. So would Reynolds' Chasm City. __________________ JJverse Star Trek...is gonna rock again! On May 17, 2013!