How could Archers Racism have been better handled - Page 4

T'Girl · February 24 2013, 12:12 PM

Guy Gardener wrote:

I wonder how many Statues of Archer they built on Vulcan after the Federation was on it's feet?

And did they make tiny changes in his appearance, to make him look ever so slightly more Vulcan?

Guy Gardener · February 24 2013, 12:42 PM

Maybe they'd touch up his eyebrows but it would take some gall to make his ears pointy.

teacake · February 24 2013, 12:59 PM

Would they give him a bowl cut?

T'Girl · February 24 2013, 01:25 PM

They'd definitely depict him in robes with big "manly" shoulder pads.

Guy Gardener · February 24 2013, 01:44 PM

Any true depiction of Jonothan Archer in Statue form on any planet should have the man knocked on his ass trying to get up through a heady concussion.

WesleysDisciple · March 15 2013, 02:36 AM

Hows this sound for a statue of Archer

Him, and on the other side Phlox, standing tall and proud, Statues of them built, by the Menk, a millenia latter, after the race the menk evolve into (NOT The pakleds, sorry) Saves the milky way from somet threat from another galaxy... THey build statues of Archer and Phlox, speaking of their wisdom, their restraint, their ability not to be blinded by instant compassion, and to see things from a larger perspective

Beyond that... SFdebris just wrote a review on Shadow's of P'jem... and I'm like... I know its his show but.... URGGH, I like a lot of his things on DS9 but he never once even ACKNOWLEDGES, that THe vulcans used a RELIGIOUS STRUCTURE, as cover for their listening post.

Saying this isnt just spying, but an attempt to prey on peoples sympathys, is quite legitimate.

teacake · March 15 2013, 08:49 AM

WesleysDisciple wrote:

Hows this sound for a statue of Archer

Him, and on the other side Phlox, standing tall and proud, Statues of them built, by the Menk, a millenia latter, after the race the menk evolve into (NOT The pakleds, sorry) Saves the milky way from somet threat from another galaxy... THey build statues of Archer and Phlox, speaking of their wisdom, their restraint, their ability not to be blinded by instant compassion, and to see things from a larger perspective

And Phlox and Archer should both have their middle fingers pointed skyward as a heroic fuck you to the Valakians. Children could drape those fingers in flower garlands on Menk holidays.

WesleysDisciple · March 15 2013, 02:10 PM

Would prefer a holographic exhibit... With scenes of them weeping for the decision they must make, but ultimately finding peace with themselves, knowing what must be done.

T'Girl · March 15 2013, 11:01 PM

WesleysDisciple wrote:

Beyond that... SFdebris just wrote a review on Shadow's of P'jem... and I'm like... I know its his show but.... URGGH, I like a lot of his things on DS9 but he never once even ACKNOWLEDGES, that THe vulcans used a RELIGIOUS STRUCTURE, as cover for their listening post

I don't think the monastery existed for the sole, or even primary, purpose of deception. Rather it was a actual Vulcan monastery which had existed for thousands of years, but there also was a relatively resent listen post located in it's basement.

bullethead · March 17 2013, 11:20 PM

WesleysDisciple wrote:

Beyond that... SFdebris just wrote a review on Shadow's of P'jem... and I'm like... I know its his show but.... URGGH, I like a lot of his things on DS9 but he never once even ACKNOWLEDGES, that THe vulcans used a RELIGIOUS STRUCTURE, as cover for their listening post.

Lots of governments have used ostensibly civilian structures, operations, and vehicles for intelligence operations. The Vulcans doing that is par for the course when it comes to these kinds of things.

Guy Gardener · March 17 2013, 11:39 PM

The Pentagon used to be a mental hospital. Briefly there was an overlap of a few years where the building housed both Americas cooks and Americas grizzled sociopaths planning the destruction of communism.

jespah · March 18 2013, 09:32 PM

... some say that's still going on ....

T'Girl · March 19 2013, 01:33 AM

Guy Gardener wrote:

... the building housed both Americas cooks and Americas grizzled sociopaths planning the destruction of communism.

Why were America's cooks planning the destruction of communism?

teacake · March 19 2013, 03:38 AM

Have you eaten food under a communist regime?

I haven't, but I have seen the movies.

Mr. Laser Beam · March 19 2013, 04:03 AM

T'Girl wrote:

Guy Gardener wrote:

I wonder how many Statues of Archer they built on Vulcan after the Federation was on it's feet?

And did they make tiny changes in his appearance, to make him look ever so slightly more Vulcan?

They didn't put the gazelle speech on the statue's dedication plaque, we know that much.

February 24 2013, 12:42 PM	#47
Guy Gardener Admiral Location: In the lap of squalor I assure you.	Re: How could Archers Racism have been better handled Maybe they'd touch up his eyebrows but it would take some gall to make his ears pointy. __________________ "Glitter is the herpes of arts and craft." Troy Yingst. My Life as Liz

February 24 2013, 12:59 PM	#48
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: How could Archers Racism have been better handled Would they give him a bowl cut? __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne

February 24 2013, 01:25 PM	#49
T'Girl Vice Admiral	Re: How could Archers Racism have been better handled They'd definitely depict him in robes with big "manly" shoulder pads.

February 24 2013, 01:44 PM	#50
Guy Gardener Admiral Location: In the lap of squalor I assure you.	Re: How could Archers Racism have been better handled Any true depiction of Jonothan Archer in Statue form on any planet should have the man knocked on his ass trying to get up through a heady concussion. __________________ "Glitter is the herpes of arts and craft." Troy Yingst. My Life as Liz

March 15 2013, 02:36 AM	#51
WesleysDisciple Lieutenant Commander	Re: How could Archers Racism have been better handled Hows this sound for a statue of Archer Him, and on the other side Phlox, standing tall and proud, Statues of them built, by the Menk, a millenia latter, after the race the menk evolve into (NOT The pakleds, sorry) Saves the milky way from somet threat from another galaxy... THey build statues of Archer and Phlox, speaking of their wisdom, their restraint, their ability not to be blinded by instant compassion, and to see things from a larger perspective Beyond that... SFdebris just wrote a review on Shadow's of P'jem... and I'm like... I know its his show but.... URGGH, I like a lot of his things on DS9 but he never once even ACKNOWLEDGES, that THe vulcans used a RELIGIOUS STRUCTURE, as cover for their listening post. Saying this isnt just spying, but an attempt to prey on peoples sympathys, is quite legitimate.

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March 15 2013, 02:10 PM	#53
WesleysDisciple Lieutenant Commander	Re: How could Archers Racism have been better handled Would prefer a holographic exhibit... With scenes of them weeping for the decision they must make, but ultimately finding peace with themselves, knowing what must be done.

March 17 2013, 11:39 PM	#56
Guy Gardener Admiral Location: In the lap of squalor I assure you.	Re: How could Archers Racism have been better handled The Pentagon used to be a mental hospital. Briefly there was an overlap of a few years where the building housed both Americas cooks and Americas grizzled sociopaths planning the destruction of communism. __________________ "Glitter is the herpes of arts and craft." Troy Yingst. My Life as Liz

March 18 2013, 09:32 PM	#57
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March 19 2013, 03:38 AM	#59
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: How could Archers Racism have been better handled Have you eaten food under a communist regime? I haven't, but I have seen the movies. __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne