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Old February 22 2013, 07:34 PM   #631
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Well, I don't think I'm doing a spoiler number by assuring you that TPTB will give 7/9 A LOT of space to "cope with her human emotions and instincts as her human physiology takes over."

Welcome to Season 4!!
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Old February 22 2013, 07:36 PM   #632
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Great to hear it! I am really looking forward to this Season!
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Old February 22 2013, 09:02 PM   #633
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The parable Chakotay offered was actually quite significant. I enjoy that aspect of his character. He does not share his Native American history and background often, but when he does it really is quite insightful and relevant to the episode.
Unfortunately, the parable is of West African or European origin, not Native American.

So he was not sharing his Native American background.
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Old February 22 2013, 10:15 PM   #634
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His tribe could have briefly conquered Africa during world war 3 when all the superpowers were in complete disarray from multiple nukings?
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Old February 22 2013, 10:23 PM   #635
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The real problem is that the writers didn't give a shit about actual Native American culture (starting with the Maori facial markings ...). They seemed to think that all they needed to do is make Beltran look soulful and spout some Hallmarkian inanity, and it would sell. ("Dances With Aliens", anyone?)
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Old February 24 2013, 05:46 AM   #636
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Well, I don't think I'm doing a spoiler number by assuring you that TPTB will give 7/9 A LOT of space to "cope with her human emotions and instincts as her human physiology takes over."

Welcome to Season 4!!
At this point it all becomes my most adored Trek.
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Old February 24 2013, 05:47 AM   #637
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Old February 24 2013, 08:26 AM   #638
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My only issue with Displaced is that it took them way too long to suspect that the aliens, perhaps, were intentionally trying to replace their crew. It seems like any competent captain's first assumption.

Don't worry about 7 of 9, she's one of the things the series got right.

It's pretty clear the writers did not do any actual research about Native Americans.
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Old February 24 2013, 08:33 AM   #639
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Don't worry about 7 of 9, she's one of the things the series got right.
I think it is so sweet she is worrying about 7 of 9, my favorite ever Trek character..

It's pretty clear the writers did not do any actual research about Native Americans.
Well to be fair there was no google in those days.
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Old February 24 2013, 08:39 AM   #640
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All they needed to say was "Hey Rob!? Do you want a writing credit? tell us about yourself?"

IndoMexican... "My people were building cities of gold when your lot were Roman slaves."
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VOY writers: Cities of Gold?!! FERENGI ftw!! And you know maybe we could have female indian tribe ferengi with papooses so they can be naked but okay for television. And wampum, that's got Ferengi written all over it!!
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Old February 24 2013, 09:00 AM   #642
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They never could remember if gold was useless or valuable to the Ferengi.

Maybe there was something else of value in Fort Knox after the War when the Ferengi Broke in?

Why bring up the Ferengi?

The native South Americans built Cities of Gold.

It's a fact jack.
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Old February 24 2013, 09:07 AM   #643
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And they had fountains of eternal youth.
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Old February 24 2013, 09:15 AM   #644
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The had different definitions of eternal.

Their immortality only had to last until 2012.
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Imagine being immortal through all that genocide and pillage. Ick.
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