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Old February 22 2013, 06:59 PM   #241
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Re: Is the Playstation 4 About to be announced??

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I don't get why backwards compatibility is such a big deal. My PS3 can't play my PS2 games...but my PS2 is still hooked up to the TV, sitting right next to the PS3. Unless you want to get ten bucks trading in an old system, what does it matter if a new system plays the old one's games?
Okay, if you only play Sony games it's not a big deal. However, here is what I have hooked up to my TV:

- Wii (Gamecube BC and emulators from Atari 2600 - SNES)
- N64
- Sega Saturn
- Sega Dreamcast
- Xbox
- Playstation 2 (PSX BC)
- PC (Streaming and DVDs)

I really don't have the room to add a PS3, PS4, 360, Wii U, and 720 to that setup.

Well a 360 will play most Xbox games(true you might need an update), so the 360 could easily replace the Xbox.
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Old February 22 2013, 07:09 PM   #242
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Re: Is the Playstation 4 About to be announced??

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I don't get why backwards compatibility is such a big deal. My PS3 can't play my PS2 games...but my PS2 is still hooked up to the TV, sitting right next to the PS3. Unless you want to get ten bucks trading in an old system, what does it matter if a new system plays the old one's games?
Exactly, having two systems is better sometimes, you can hook them up to different TVs and have guests / kids play the older system when you play the new.

And if the system breaks someone will release a ripoff that can play the discs, like there is for the NES/SNES.
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Old February 22 2013, 08:24 PM   #243
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I am worried that for the next generation of consoles that a person may have to purchase not only the console, but the other products from Sony and Microsoft to get the full experience. PS4=Vita (or whatever it's called). And, I hear that the 720 will have Kinect. I hope for Microsoft that they have worked out the bugs with that motion control abomination; though in light of the company's history, I seriously doubt it.
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Old February 22 2013, 09:42 PM   #244
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Re: Is the Playstation 4 About to be announced??

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I don't get why backwards compatibility is such a big deal. My PS3 can't play my PS2 games...but my PS2 is still hooked up to the TV, sitting right next to the PS3. Unless you want to get ten bucks trading in an old system, what does it matter if a new system plays the old one's games?
Okay, if you only play Sony games it's not a big deal. However, here is what I have hooked up to my TV:

- Wii (Gamecube BC and emulators from Atari 2600 - SNES)
- N64
- Sega Saturn
- Sega Dreamcast
- Xbox
- Playstation 2 (PSX BC)
- PC (Streaming and DVDs)

I really don't have the room to add a PS3, PS4, 360, Wii U, and 720 to that setup.
Not to be rude, but your setup is atypically complex, and Sony and Microsoft have little reason to try to accommodate it. Sony is providing backward compatibility--by way of a streaming service that offers PS3 games. Presumably, you would have to buy them again. This allows Sony to make money off of those games again, which is likely the main reason they're doing it.
Actually, I think the primary reason they're doing it is because they switched architectures as much as they do want to charge again for those games.

I don't even know if they will charge for games I bought digitally. I did pay $5 to play Joust, Crash Bandicoot and Pac Man CE DX and the nostalgia was nice, but if they think I'm going to cough up more so soon to play them again on PS4, I think they will be very disappointed. I'll just keep my PS3.


Oh.... And like clockwork, Microsoft starts to make moves!! They want to limit mindshare of the PS4!


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Old February 22 2013, 10:37 PM   #245
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Not to be rude, but your setup is atypically complex, and Sony and Microsoft have little reason to try to accommodate it. Sony is providing backward compatibility--by way of a streaming service that offers PS3 games. Presumably, you would have to buy them again. This allows Sony to make money off of those games again, which is likely the main reason they're doing it.
Hah, that's nothing. That's my reduced setup that I went with to not overwhelm my apartment.

But yeah, I'm not saying that Sony should prioritize hardcore gamers like me. However, it's the core gamers like me who are complaining about the lack of backwards compatibility. The people posting on gaming forums and bitching about the lack of BC tend to have a little bit more than two consoles and a dozen games. Again, perfectly understandable why Sony is ditching BC, but I was replying to the guy who couldn't understand why gamers have a problem with it.
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Old February 23 2013, 02:46 AM   #246
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Well a 360 will play most Xbox games(true you might need an update), so the 360 could easily replace the Xbox.
For now. They are well within their rights (its in the fine print) to discontinue said download/update and force users to pay for the digital version of any old game in the future and there's nothing the consumer can do about it.
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Old February 23 2013, 04:04 AM   #247
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Sony is providing backward compatibility--by way of a streaming service that offers PS3 games. Presumably, you would have to buy them again.
That's not backwards compatibility, then.
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Old February 23 2013, 06:46 AM   #248
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Sony is providing backward compatibility--by way of a streaming service that offers PS3 games. Presumably, you would have to buy them again.
That's not backwards compatibility, then.
It's bend-over and take it up the backside compatibility.
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Old February 25 2013, 02:55 AM   #249
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Sony is providing backward compatibility--by way of a streaming service that offers PS3 games. Presumably, you would have to buy them again.
That's not backwards compatibility, then.
It's bend-over and take it up the backside compatibility.
Sounds like an afternoon of fun to me, what's everyone bitching about?
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Old May 15 2013, 10:38 PM   #250
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Some news:

The PS4 will launch on November 22nd in the UK, Ubisoft has all but confirmed.

The release date for Watch_Dogs was announced at the end of the new trailer for the game. It has previously said the game will be released first for the PS4.

Sony has remained coy on when the console will launch.

Industry watchers believe both Sony and Microsoft are aiming to launch their next generation consoles before this Christmas in the UK, as well as other major gaming markets.

Ubisoft has confirmed that Watch_Dogs will be available at the launch of the PS4.

In February, a spokesperson for the publisher confirmed to Kotaku that the game will launch first on PS4.

However, it stopped short of explicitly confirming that the game itself will be released on the same day Sony's next generation console hits shelves.
http://www.t3.com/news/ps4-will-laun...-hints-ubisoft

So PS4 before the end of the year?!?
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Old May 16 2013, 06:20 AM   #251
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^ I definitely hope we get it in Europe at the same time as Japan and the US. It'll be a day one purchase for me.
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Old May 16 2013, 08:16 AM   #252
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For me it might depend on the launch titles...
I'm just glad after buying and hardly ever playing the Wii i decided to only have 2 gaming systems, my PC and the Playstaion...
Though i will have a PS3 and PS4 side-byside for a while because the PS4 won't be backwards compatible and there will still be some good PS3 games coming out in the next 12 to 18 months...
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Old May 16 2013, 08:53 AM   #253
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Yeah I also plan to keep my PS3. Even if I stop gaming on it, I'll still use it as a Blu-ray player.
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Old May 16 2013, 10:24 PM   #254
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I guess that I'll spend about $700 on PS4 launch day. The console is rumored to have 2 skus, $429 and $529. I'll have to have another controller and at least 2 launch titles. Hopefully, 1 of them will be inFAMOUS: Second Son.
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Old May 16 2013, 11:24 PM   #255
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The problem is can Sony and Microsoft produce enough consoles to meet demand in Australia, Europe, Japan and N. America and Canda as well as any other markets they want to lauch in.
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