DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) - Page 400

OdoWanKenobi · February 22 2013, 03:46 AM

The thing is, Damian isn't just Morrison's any more. He's been around for years, has been written by multiple people, and has become a seriously popular character with fans. It is incredibly difficult to introduce a new character in comics and have them be almost universally accepted, and be good enough to stick around. If this is the end for him, then I feel like it's a waste.

Admiral_Young · February 22 2013, 03:59 AM

Yeah that's the biggest reason why I'm nervous haha. I don't want him to go yet...especially after he's made so much progression (depending on who has written him) and changed a lot of fans minds! He still obviously has his detractors and haters but not as many.

Nerys Myk · February 22 2013, 04:18 AM

Maybe fandom's dreams will be answered he'll be replaced by Stephanie Brown.

Admiral_Young · February 22 2013, 04:25 AM

If only

Some have speculated that perhaps Harper Row was created to be the "new" Stephanie Brown and that's why editorial refuses to use her. *Shrugs*.

OdoWanKenobi · February 22 2013, 04:25 AM

Ha, I think that unlikely. Evidence seems to point to Harper Row being his replacement if he does indeed meet his demise.

Admiral_Young · February 22 2013, 04:49 AM

I'm looking forward to seeing her in next month's Batman #18. I've been enjoying her character so far.

theenglish · February 22 2013, 06:40 AM

OdoWanKenobi wrote:

I've said before that Morrison's writing style is ill suited to a monthly publication format. The nature of comics being what they are, I should not have to go back and re-read the entire run to remember the tiniest minutia that he's touched on. A good comic can tell a lengthy story, but with Morrison's I come in every month thinking I've skipped an issue, or not remembering at all just what the heck was going on, and the issue does nothing to jog my memory. I do not have this problem with any other title that I read.

Thank God I'm not the only one. Reading his runs makes me feel like I am reading William S Burroughs.

That said, I like to go back and read from the beginning and it makes more sense.

I just wish to hell he would respect the continuity of other books in the DC universe--I still have not forgiven DC for the Countdown/Final Crisis fiasco.

Nerys Myk · February 22 2013, 07:06 AM

theenglish wrote:

OdoWanKenobi wrote:

I've said before that Morrison's writing style is ill suited to a monthly publication format. The nature of comics being what they are, I should not have to go back and re-read the entire run to remember the tiniest minutia that he's touched on. A good comic can tell a lengthy story, but with Morrison's I come in every month thinking I've skipped an issue, or not remembering at all just what the heck was going on, and the issue does nothing to jog my memory. I do not have this problem with any other title that I read.

Thank God I'm not the only one. Reading his runs makes me feel like I am reading William S Burroughs.

That said, I like to go back and read from the beginning and it makes more sense.

I just wish to hell he would respect the continuity of other books in the DC universe--I still have not forgiven DC for the Countdown/Final Crisis fiasco.

So, you're saying heroin would help?

Praetor_Shinzon · February 22 2013, 10:44 AM

i enjoy Morrison's Action Comics, but the storytelling has been very fractured. it jumps around so much that it is hard to remember certain plot points. the only Morrison story that i read and didn't care for was Final Crisis.

Mr Light · February 22 2013, 01:30 PM

As confusing as it is, I enjoy Morrison books... except for Final Crisis. That was a mess. If it'd been it's own little Elseworlds story it would be okay, but not as the big summer tentpole crossover they spent a year building up to.

Mike Farley · February 22 2013, 03:25 PM

Wildstorm/DC artist Scott Clark has died.

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43. Way too young.

theenglish · February 23 2013, 01:59 AM

Nerys Myk wrote:

theenglish wrote:

OdoWanKenobi wrote:

I've said before that Morrison's writing style is ill suited to a monthly publication format. The nature of comics being what they are, I should not have to go back and re-read the entire run to remember the tiniest minutia that he's touched on. A good comic can tell a lengthy story, but with Morrison's I come in every month thinking I've skipped an issue, or not remembering at all just what the heck was going on, and the issue does nothing to jog my memory. I do not have this problem with any other title that I read.

Thank God I'm not the only one. Reading his runs makes me feel like I am reading William S Burroughs.

That said, I like to go back and read from the beginning and it makes more sense.

I just wish to hell he would respect the continuity of other books in the DC universe--I still have not forgiven DC for the Countdown/Final Crisis fiasco.

So, you're saying heroin would help?

I wonder if anyone has ever said that, "I got into heroin so I could understand comic books."

Mr Light · February 24 2013, 02:22 AM

Okay, I just read all the Hell on Earth issues! Ugh, there was a single issue that hadn't come out yet! This is definitely the best non-Morrison New 52 Superman story. I actually care about the story. I love that it's one huge story involving Superman AND Superboy AND Supergirl AND the Justice League!

Trekker4747 · February 24 2013, 03:46 AM

Mr Light wrote:

Okay, I just read all the Hell on Earth issues! Ugh, there was a single issue that hadn't come out yet! This is definitely the best non-Morrison New 52 Superman story. I actually care about the story. I love that it's one huge story involving Superman AND Superboy AND Supergirl AND the Justice League!

H'El on Earth ends next week with Superman. I agree though this has been a great story (and a lot easier to follow and more coherent than want Morrison's been doing in Action for the last few months) with a great use of Supergirl and Superboy. (I actually find him to be an interesting character!)

I'm only missing one issue of Superboy in the arc and all of my LCS's are out of it so I had to resort to buying an issue off eBay in order to get it. (Wasn't much more than cover price, plus shipping.)

Along the same lines, I liked the use of the JL in the Throne of Atlantis storyline in Aquaman/Justice League. Almost to the point where I may continue to follow Justice League.

sidious618 · February 24 2013, 03:58 AM

I like Morrison's storytelling. The fact that you get a lot out of going back and rereading gives you more bang for your buck.

February 22 2013, 03:46 AM	#5986
OdoWanKenobi Shapeshifting Jedi Location: Gotham City	Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) The thing is, Damian isn't just Morrison's any more. He's been around for years, has been written by multiple people, and has become a seriously popular character with fans. It is incredibly difficult to introduce a new character in comics and have them be almost universally accepted, and be good enough to stick around. If this is the end for him, then I feel like it's a waste. __________________ I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite thread on the TrekBBS.

February 22 2013, 03:59 AM	#5987
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) Yeah that's the biggest reason why I'm nervous haha. I don't want him to go yet...especially after he's made so much progression (depending on who has written him) and changed a lot of fans minds! He still obviously has his detractors and haters but not as many. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

February 22 2013, 04:18 AM	#5988
Nerys Myk Admiral Location: House of Kang, now with ridges	Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) Maybe fandom's dreams will be answered he'll be replaced by Stephanie Brown. __________________ Nerys Myk's Midnight In Never Land A novel of Dark Fantasy @ Amazon.com

February 22 2013, 04:25 AM	#5989
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) If only Some have speculated that perhaps Harper Row was created to be the "new" Stephanie Brown and that's why editorial refuses to use her. Shrugs. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

February 22 2013, 04:25 AM	#5990
OdoWanKenobi Shapeshifting Jedi Location: Gotham City	Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) Ha, I think that unlikely. Evidence seems to point to Harper Row being his replacement if he does indeed meet his demise. __________________ I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite thread on the TrekBBS.

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February 22 2013, 04:49 AM	#5991
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) I'm looking forward to seeing her in next month's Batman #18. I've been enjoying her character so far. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

February 22 2013, 10:44 AM	#5994
Praetor_Shinzon Rear Admiral Location: Virginia	Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) i enjoy Morrison's Action Comics, but the storytelling has been very fractured. it jumps around so much that it is hard to remember certain plot points. the only Morrison story that i read and didn't care for was Final Crisis.

February 22 2013, 01:30 PM	#5995
Mr Light Admiral Location: Pennsylvania	Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) As confusing as it is, I enjoy Morrison books... except for Final Crisis. That was a mess. If it'd been it's own little Elseworlds story it would be okay, but not as the big summer tentpole crossover they spent a year building up to. __________________

February 22 2013, 03:25 PM	#5996
Mike Farley Commodore Location: Lost Vegas	Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) Wildstorm/DC artist Scott Clark has died. link 43. Way too young.

February 24 2013, 02:22 AM	#5998
Mr Light Admiral Location: Pennsylvania	Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) Okay, I just read all the Hell on Earth issues! Ugh, there was a single issue that hadn't come out yet! This is definitely the best non-Morrison New 52 Superman story. I actually care about the story. I love that it's one huge story involving Superman AND Superboy AND Supergirl AND the Justice League! __________________

February 24 2013, 03:58 AM	#6000
sidious618 Admiral Location: New York, US	Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) I like Morrison's storytelling. The fact that you get a lot out of going back and rereading gives you more bang for your buck. __________________ We've met before, haven't we?