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Old February 19 2013, 12:04 PM   #46
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I think Cumberbatch is playing Benjamin Sisko
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Old February 22 2013, 02:31 AM   #47
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Just started a Star Trek rewatch and, granted, I'm only on episode 7 of Season 1, but so far, methinks BC could be Gary Mitchell or maybe even Dr. Corby. I could see either one of those characters fitting in very well for the updated Star Trek. I just honestly hope it is not Khan. Let Khan live on in TOS and Wrath of Khan. Let him have his peace.
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Old February 22 2013, 04:17 AM   #48
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It's not Mitchell and it's not Korby.
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Old February 22 2013, 04:23 AM   #49
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It's Ben Finney.
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Old February 22 2013, 05:15 AM   #50
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I don't care who he is. If he doesn't at some point walk up to Spock and say, "When you have eliminated the impossible ... ...," I'm going to ask for my money back.
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Old February 22 2013, 06:06 AM   #51
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It is, of course, Lazarus.
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Old February 22 2013, 06:31 AM   #52
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I don't care who he is. If he doesn't at some point walk up to Spock and say, "When you have eliminated the impossible ... ...," I'm going to ask for my money back.
Since QuintoSpock already reprised NimoySpock's Sherlock Holmes line in the last movie, have him begin to say it again, at which point Harrison—in what will prove to be his only appearance in the film (despite all of the promo footage and imagery implying otherwise)—walks into the scene unannounced, stifles Spock mid-sentence by stuffing a tribble in his mouth, glares scornfully at him for a moment, and then walks on out the other side of the scene without having uttered a word.
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Old February 22 2013, 06:56 AM   #53
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Old February 22 2013, 06:58 AM   #54
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Old February 22 2013, 11:59 PM   #55
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maybe even Dr. Corby.
Even though he doesn't quite fit the role for a variety of reasons, the thought did cross my mind that androids could be involved since the "GATT2000" character possibly involved at least some cybernetics. Or maybe not. That name might not even be Joseph Gatt's character's name. That info might be a coverup.

I'm pretty sure Gatt's character is the beefy one seen in the room full of stasis pods (or whatever they are). If he's not some sort of cyborg, he could be one of the augments. He's certainly very muscular.
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Old February 23 2013, 12:27 AM   #56
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I just honestly hope it is not Khan.
I wonder if statements like this have any connection to the ridiculous predictions that frequently appear a few sentences later.
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Old February 23 2013, 12:42 AM   #57
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For me, it always comes back to "Why Khan?"

Even among the ridiculous predictions, there's frankly more original thought than saying "this is the rebooted Star Trek 2, therefore Khan is expected and then that's what must be delivered."

Even the ones which sound silly based on the way they happened before, I think different universe, different hand dealt or different roll of the dice and potentially a different outcome.

Seen "Elementary, Dear Data"? Then that's where I often think Star Trek is at right now. Data programs a Sherlock Holmes type adventure and the extent of his deductive reasoning is simply to recognise character/plot/situation elements from existing stories that Arthur Conan Doyle wrote, randomly cobbled together to appear new. Then again, what does the computer do in order to create an adversary capable of defeating Data? It basically adds a third dimension to Moriarty, Holmes' greatest enemy. Access to a reality he didn't have on the page. But at least he operates on a level the original version couldn't.

The argument in this instance, would appear to be Khan is remembered as Kirk's greatest enemy and so, that needs to be proven all over again, to satisfy somekind of audience expectation.

Khan ruled the world, escaped, woke up in the future, briefly tried to take control of a starship, was defeated and sent into exile. Years later he eventually escaped again, blaming one man for his loss and after another conflict, was defeated and blows himself up, in one last attempt at vengeance. It costs the object of his grudge, a very high price in order to escape.

I mean, WOW! Imagine if Harve Bennett had latched onto a different one hit wonder Original Series villain. No disrespect to the memory of Richardo Montalban, but there were better episodes than "Space Seed" to elaborate upon and it's only really The Wrath of Khan which elevates the episode's status. The successful formula set by that film in my opinion, is how to take a character established in the Original Series, preferably one who owned the story in which they appeared, sum them up in a single reintroductory scene and then add further flesh to their bones with a personal motivation to want a rematch with Kirk and/or other members of the Enterprise crew. Their coming back for more doesn't even need to be about revenge, in a universe where they haven't even met.
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Old February 23 2013, 01:01 AM   #58
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Even among the ridiculous predictions, there's frankly more original thought than saying "this is the rebooted Star Trek 2, therefore Khan is expected and then that's what must be delivered."
That's not why they would use Khan.
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Old February 23 2013, 01:54 PM   #59
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No, it's just an amazing coincidence!
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