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Old February 20 2013, 05:36 PM   #121
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My thought is that April's Enterprise in this universe was the ringship version.
It's not. There's a flashback to April's mission to Phaedus, and you see the ship on page 12. To me, it looks to be about halfway between the Matt Jeffries Enterprise and the NuTrek Enterprise.
Ah! ah!! Wanna see! Wanna see!!
I wanna see too! I just read on Trekmovie.com that April's first officer is...
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Old February 20 2013, 05:47 PM   #122
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It's not. There's a flashback to April's mission to Phaedus, and you see the ship on page 12. To me, it looks to be about halfway between the Matt Jeffries Enterprise and the NuTrek Enterprise.
Ah! ah!! Wanna see! Wanna see!!
I wanna see too!
I don't have a scanner, sorry.

The nacelle pylons look straight rather than curved and their mounts are set further back on the secondary hull. Also, the nacelles aren't as tricked out as the film's Enterprise.

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I just read on Trekmovie.com that April's first officer is...
Ah. That's interesting. That could be the link into the film, then.
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Old February 20 2013, 05:53 PM   #123
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It's not. There's a flashback to April's mission to Phaedus, and you see the ship on page 12. To me, it looks to be about halfway between the Matt Jeffries Enterprise and the NuTrek Enterprise.
Ah! ah!! Wanna see! Wanna see!!
I wanna see too! I just read on Trekmovie.com that April's first officer is...
Here you go

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Old February 20 2013, 05:57 PM   #124
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Thank you very much!
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Old February 20 2013, 06:03 PM   #125
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I just realized...

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Old February 20 2013, 06:08 PM   #126
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^ Is that retirement like one of those infamous Nimoy retirements?
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Old February 20 2013, 06:08 PM   #127
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^^I was just about to comment on that myself.
EDIT: That is the date issue, not the various definitions of retirement.
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Old February 20 2013, 06:12 PM   #128
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Old February 20 2013, 07:45 PM   #129
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^ Is that retirement like one of those infamous Nimoy retirements?
Maybe.

But with this and the reported new Gorn backstory in the videogame...

...I'm not so sure there's any point in trying to reconcile old and new Trek anymore. Old Spock aside, it looks like they're treating it as a true reboot, a loose adaptation of the old, and not an alternate timeline beginning in 2233 + visual upgrade as I'd previously believed.
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Old February 20 2013, 07:50 PM   #130
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^Again, the tie-ins are not technically canonical. Whatever "oversight" there may be from Orci, they're still largely the creations of people other than Abrams's Supreme Court. It's a mistake to assume they're on the same level as the movie canon. Until the actual movies contradict something from canon before 2233, we can't draw any indisputable conclusions from what the tie-ins propose.
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Old February 20 2013, 08:29 PM   #131
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Isn't part 2 out today?
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Old February 20 2013, 09:28 PM   #132
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I just realized...

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^Again, the tie-ins are not technically canonical. Whatever "oversight" there may be from Orci, they're still largely the creations of people other than Abrams's Supreme Court. It's a mistake to assume they're on the same level as the movie canon. Until the actual movies contradict something from canon before 2233, we can't draw any indisputable conclusions from what the tie-ins propose.
Not that I doubt what you're saying, but I've not kept up with the interviews and statements. Where did they talk about the canonicity of their tie-ins?
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Old February 20 2013, 10:04 PM   #134
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^Again, the tie-ins are not technically canonical. Whatever "oversight" there may be from Orci, they're still largely the creations of people other than Abrams's Supreme Court. It's a mistake to assume they're on the same level as the movie canon. Until the actual movies contradict something from canon before 2233, we can't draw any indisputable conclusions from what the tie-ins propose.
Not that I doubt what you're saying, but I've not kept up with the interviews and statements. Where did they talk about the canonicity of their tie-ins?

This is the latest comment on the matter from January, while talking about Countdown

How canon is this?

Orci: We get asked that a lot, and itís our understanding that canon is that which is filmed. As a strict Constitutionalist, I donít support a change in the definition of canon during my tenure. Perhaps future courts can take up the issue, but in the meantime the comics are as close to canon as you can get without being on film.
http://www.startrek.com/article/orci...wn-to-darkness
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Old February 20 2013, 10:18 PM   #135
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How canon is this?

Orci: We get asked that a lot, and itís our understanding that canon is that which is filmed. As a strict Constitutionalist, I donít support a change in the definition of canon during my tenure. Perhaps future courts can take up the issue, but in the meantime the comics are as close to canon as you can get without being on film.
Which means not at all.
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