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Old February 20 2013, 04:30 PM   #5911
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Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

Looks like the new GL creative teams are locked in. I'm kind of interested in Keith Griffen on "Larfleeze" but that's about it.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/02/...teams-in-full/
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Old February 20 2013, 04:33 PM   #5912
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I like it when I'm not the crazy one.

So in Larry Niven's Ganthets Tale we see a hand shuffling the universe when Krona is trying to look at the origin of the universe... Then in Zero Hour we discover that it is Hal Jordan who created all 52 universes and that had always been his hand in the beginning and... Can someone sit Geoff Johns down and tell him to abide with the continuity of other writers "just a smidge".

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Old February 20 2013, 05:12 PM   #5913
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Saw the "Wrath of the First Lantern" issues and decided to pick them up.
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Old February 20 2013, 05:17 PM   #5914
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No can do Guy its a new 52 and we dont know whos hand that is.
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Old February 20 2013, 05:19 PM   #5915
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That hand was Dan Didio's
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Old February 20 2013, 05:41 PM   #5916
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And I think it's also curious you never responded to The Incredibles example. Why doesn't that move require, NAY, DEMAND four movies to set it up? Where was the mass confusion?
The Incredibles wasn't a movie about the superheroes using the superpowers but about the family, they just happened to have super powers which were easily shown to fit in either certain hero archetypes or just simply what they were. (Stretchiness, fast, made invisible.)

This is different with characters who have decades long histories and a lot deeper backgrounds to them than "Wants to be a superhero, can't because of easily explained reasons."

Tony Stark: Realizing his weapons created a worse world, turning to heroics and developing a personalized weapon in order to make the world safer. Suffers from egotisim, alcoholism, and is a playboy. Again, it took most of an entire movie to set him up as a character. Something you couldn't easily do with a few minutes of exposition in a movie.
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Old February 20 2013, 06:18 PM   #5917
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I think I got the Action Comics issues mixed up. It's the other way around. Action Comics #17 is 40 pages, and 18 is 48.
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Old February 20 2013, 06:31 PM   #5918
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Is that a new Larfleeze solo title, then? Maybe Threshold isn't panning out.
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Old February 20 2013, 06:33 PM   #5919
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No interest in a Larfleez ongoing. This is a character that is best seen in small doses.
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Old February 20 2013, 06:46 PM   #5920
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I believe it's a new ongoing series. Griffen is still writing "Threshold" I believe, haven't heard about that going away any time soon, along with the new upcoming "He-Man and the Masters of the Universe" title.
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Old February 20 2013, 07:09 PM   #5921
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I know I shouldn't, really this should be in the Justice League movie thread... and this is my last response to the subject in this thread...

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And I think it's also curious you never responded to The Incredibles example. Why doesn't that move require, NAY, DEMAND four movies to set it up? Where was the mass confusion?
The Incredibles wasn't a movie about the superheroes using the superpowers but about the family, they just happened to have super powers which were easily shown to fit in either certain hero archetypes or just simply what they were. (Stretchiness, fast, made invisible.)
You mean movies AREN'T just what we see on the surface? There's MORE?

Of COURSE it was about family, that's the heart of the story, and in the context of a superhero movie. But how does that change my point in ANY way? It still had to introduce the world, it still had to introduce the characters and how their powers worked, it still had to introduce the conflicts, etc, etc. Just as any other movie, including a Justice League movie.

How come because it's a movie about "family" it doesn't need movies to set it up?

Hint: because they did a good job at the exposition.


This is different with characters who have decades long histories and a lot deeper backgrounds to them than "Wants to be a superhero, can't because of easily explained reasons."
Deeper backgrounds are for the comic book fans. Decades long history is for comic book fans. They give filmmakers lots of choices to ADAPT into a movie for a general audience, but they aren't going to make it so you need to be familiar with Superman Red and Blue in order to get the movie.

Again: it's called exposition.


Tony Stark: Realizing his weapons created a worse world, turning to heroics and developing a personalized weapon in order to make the world safer. Suffers from egotisim, alcoholism, and is a playboy. Again, it took most of an entire movie to set him up as a character.
All that set up: was in the first 15 minutes of the movie. We watched how his choices to do something played out. But all of that... the egotistm, the drinking, that's in the first SCENE in the truck with the soldiers.


Something you couldn't easily do with a few minutes of exposition in a movie.
Except they did. In the first Iron Man.
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Old February 20 2013, 07:26 PM   #5922
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I believe it's a new ongoing series. Griffen is still writing "Threshold" I believe, haven't heard about that going away any time soon, along with the new upcoming "He-Man and the Masters of the Universe" title.
Just a tiny nit. It's Keith Giffen, not "Griffin". No "r".
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Old February 20 2013, 07:56 PM   #5923
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Is that a new Larfleeze solo title, then? Maybe Threshold isn't panning out.
Threshold is just the Blue Beetle book renamed.
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Old February 20 2013, 09:35 PM   #5924
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Why do I keep adding the r? Thanks for pointing that out!
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Old February 20 2013, 09:46 PM   #5925
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This is different with characters who have decades long histories and a lot deeper backgrounds to them than "Wants to be a superhero, can't because of easily explained reasons."
You are confusing "have had a lot of stories written about them" with "have a core origin/back-story" - the first are largely irrelevant, the second can be told in minutes. What in the Flash's back-story requires more than a few lines about "I was in an accident"?

Which possible character that they select for a JLA film cannot be boiled down to the essentials with no great difficulty?
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