The Walking Dead Season 3

[wissaboo]

some random Walking thoughts

I wonder how much discovering Andrea is alive and they just left her behind is contributing to Rick's guilt breakdown?

I also wonder how long it will be before Merle realizes getting his hand cut off meant he got hot showers for the last year and enough food that he still looks down on scavenging as a food source.

[auntiehill]

^ I don't think Andrea really plays into Rick's visit to Crazytown at all. He has enough guilt already; she's barely a blip on the radar.

As for Merle...well, self-awareness isn't really his strong suit, is it? Looking down on others for no logical reason is, however, something he's been good at right from the start.

[RJDiogenes]

I think everybody is underestimating how badly Maggie and Glenn were terrorized. They were held captive, physically abused, humiliated, degraded, and constantly in fear of worse abuse and in fear of their lives. Glenn seems to feel like he failed Maggie and Maggie seems to be angry at Glenn because she cooperated to save him.

As for Daryl-- well, I still think they should just change the name of the show to The Adventures of Daryl. He nearly singlehandedly saved those people on the bridge and then came back to the prison just in time to save Rick. And I love the subtle change in the dynamic between him and Merle-- now Merle is following him, and following his example. Daryl is the Dom now.

[TREK_GOD_1]

Sindatur wrote:

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I think it's a "Macho" thing. He should've been able to protect her, it happened on his watch, etc, etc. From personal experience, it seems to me that actually is quite a common type of reaction from certain personality types, when something bad happens to their lover or child, it becomes all about them, and their guilt, rather than about the actual victim.

True enough. That's reason Maggie slapped his hand away: Glen was butthurt over the idea of a sexual threat to "his woman," rather than a threat to Maggie. He has too way too many manhood/property issues, when he needs to realize he's not from a background of violence (ex. Rick, Shane, Daryl, et al) or strong male identity.

Some people with a soft past (ex. Andrea) were hardened by experience, but no one ever promised Glen he was due his change into a badass/street warrior type. Glen seems pissy--as though he's being prevented from manhood, so he lashes out at everyone for no good reason.

Maybe another Merle ass-beating will straighten him out...

[Kestrel]

RJDiogenes wrote:

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...and Maggie seems to be angry at Glenn because she cooperated to save him.

That isn't why Maggie's angry at Glen.

[TREK_GOD_1]

wissaboo wrote:

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some random Walking thoughts

I wonder how much discovering Andrea is alive and they just left her behind is contributing to Rick's guilt breakdown?

I doubt it. Remember, Merle's information would lead anyone to believe Andrea is not in Woodbury against her will, so he would not feel she was left behind--particularly after the learning she's in a sexual relationship with their #1 enemy.

[RJDiogenes]

Kestrel wrote:

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That isn't why Maggie's angry at Glen.

Maybe not.

[propita]

I loved how Merle referred to Glenn as "that Chinese kid" but Daryl corrected him very emphaticallywith "he's Korean."

And while Merle was next to useless on the bridge--and I'm not sure why Daryl didn't tell the older bot about the prison--Merle stepped it up at the prison battle. In that battle, I kept expecting the Woodbury guy who kept backing into the woods to be caught by a walker. Would've been suh-weet!

[Dorian Thompson]

Finally caught the episode. Working nights is a bitch.

I'm such a sucker. I just loved the stoic, manly nod between Rick and Daryl after Daryl stuck that walker through the head to save Rick in the nick of time. Future bromance born. Stoic and quite, but bromance nonetheless.

Merle's gonna be piiiiiiiiiiiiiised. The "sissy" sheriff holding sway over his little brother and worse yet, his baby brother respecting the sissy sheriff is NOT going to sit well with Merle and his big macho ego. What was that he said about him and Daryl originally planning to rob the camp back in the day? He'll save that for when he thinks Daryl's turned on him for good. Great three pronged dynamic being drawn between him, Daryl and Rick. And the writers plausibly got Merle back to the prison! No way our interpid group would shut Merle out with walkers storming the fence and Daryl right there.

Andrea, Andrea, Andrea......you poor misguided woman. I shake my head. She isn't a bad person in and of herself, but her taste in men leaves a great deal to be desired. Too bad she isn't the leader of Woodbury herself. She'd do better were she not distracted by romance.

[wissaboo]

TREK_GOD_1 wrote:

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I doubt it. Remember, Merle's information would lead anyone to believe Andrea is not in Woodbury against her will, so he would not feel she was left behind--particularly after the learning she's in a sexual relationship with their #1 enemy.

I meant left behind at the farm

[TREK_GOD_1]

wissaboo wrote:

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I meant left behind at the farm

I thought Rick and the others believed she probably died during the collapse of the farm. Everyone was scattering, so it was a run or die situation. He knew as well as anyone that hanging around just another minute could mean losing everything/one.

[Davros]

the G-man wrote:

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I am happy to be proven wrong on this point. However, several things had led me to think this was "canon" at this point (or as "canon" as anything about the walkers is at this point):

1. Both Shane and Jim had flashes of zombies as they died as if they were seeing things through the eyes of other walkers.
2. The way that a walker will react to something almost wordlessly and the zombies nearby will seem to pick up on it.

The little girl zombie in the first scene picking up her toy would also support this idea.

[sojourner]

How is a little girl zombie picking up a toy evidence of a hive mind????

Just no. There has been no evidence that brings a hive mind even close to being canon.

[TREK_GOD_1]

sojourner wrote:

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How is a little girl zombie picking up a toy evidence of a hive mind????

Just no. There has been no evidence that brings a hive mind even close to being canon.

Zombies do not share a hive mind, or work for a common goal, but it seems like they have some ability to sense the location of humans, long before they are in range of odor, movement, etc. If that is the case, it adds another level of creepy to the situation, as it implies they will find humans no matter how far they run.

[Pavonis]

Yeah, I think that other ability the zombies have is hearing; they can hear the humans, and walk toward the sound of them. They basically walk in straight lines until something attracts their attention. Sound travels a long way in a quiet world, and all the gunshots cause the zombies to start walking towards the source.