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Old February 20 2013, 12:17 AM   #106
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Re: Countdown to Darkness - Review and Discussion

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My thought is that April's Enterprise in this universe was the ringship version.
Can't be. The ringship was seen in a painting on the wall of a bar in ENT: "First Flight," which means it predated NX-01.
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Old February 20 2013, 12:29 AM   #107
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Re: Countdown to Darkness - Review and Discussion

Possibly following the Kelvin's destruction, Starfleet rushed a new heavy cruiser class of ships into production (and one of them was christened Enterprise) because the Federation were at war with the Romulans - who they obviously had evidence and survivors eye witness testimony about. That the Vulcan-looking race had attacked one of their vessels without provocation. And/or started a conflict with the Klingons also, who refused to surrender the captured Narada and its occupants to face trial.

Of course, at this point I'm wildly speculating about a storyline that interests me more than what I've learnt so far about this comic's plotline!

Like some post 9/11 world parallel where the Federation suddenly engages in two ongoing wars with nation states, who weren't even directly involved in attacking them.
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Old February 20 2013, 04:46 AM   #108
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The inclusion of Harriet Mudd in the 2nd comic worries me a bit. I mean, a reference to Harry Mudd is sorta interesting and fun. I can even believe there might be a female Harry Mudd out there somehow [even though never before revealed in Trek], even though it starts to feel fanwankish.

But I really have a problem with her being a Bajoran. Just like the reference to "Cardassians" that we heard in the 2009 film, I don't like the reference to races in this time period that should be way out there and not encountered by the Federation yet. I mean, even in the 24th century Bajor and Cardassia were considered way out in "Deep Space". How is it that they have now both been referenced in JJverse over 100 years earlier?
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Old February 20 2013, 04:55 AM   #109
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Just like the reference to "Cardassians" that we heard in the 2009 film, I don't like the reference to races in this time period that should be way out there and not encountered by the Federation yet. I mean, even in the 24th century Bajor and Cardassia were considered way out in "Deep Space". How is it that they have now both been referenced in JJverse over 100 years earlier?
DS9 established that Dax's 22nd-century host Tobin knew an exiled Cardassian poet living on Vulcan, Ilojen of Prim. So we know that the Cardassian species was known to the Federation for as long as there's been a Federation, even if there hadn't yet been formal contact with their government. As an exile, Ilojen may have travelled quite far from home. And maybe he wasn't the only one.
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Old February 20 2013, 02:31 PM   #110
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There was no reference to Cardassians in Trek XI. Uhura clearly said Kardashian.

I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. I actually get pissed off at people who make that joke in real life.
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Old February 20 2013, 02:31 PM   #111
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Re: Countdown to Darkness - Review and Discussion

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My thought is that April's Enterprise in this universe was the ringship version.
Can't be. The ringship was seen in a painting on the wall of a bar in ENT: "First Flight," which means it predated NX-01.
True. I was basing my supposition on the information I found at Memory Beta, where one of the entries is based on Spaceflight Chronology where the/a ringship Enterprise is noted as in operation in the very late 22nd century and early 23rd century.
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Old February 20 2013, 02:52 PM   #112
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Just like the reference to "Cardassians" that we heard in the 2009 film
Ooops. I thought this was commonly known already.
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Old February 20 2013, 03:04 PM   #113
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Spoiler!
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Old February 20 2013, 03:19 PM   #114
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Yeah, that is a pretty big spoiler.
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Old February 20 2013, 03:34 PM   #115
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Was issue two suppose to be out today?
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Old February 20 2013, 03:40 PM   #116
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Spoiler edited out - T'Bonz.
DUDE! C'mon. You should know better. This isn't your first week on these boards. Spoiler code that shit!

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Old February 20 2013, 04:29 PM   #117
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My thought is that April's Enterprise in this universe was the ringship version.
It's not. There's a flashback to April's mission to Phaedus, and you see the ship on page 12. To me, it looks to be about halfway between the Matt Jeffries Enterprise and the NuTrek Enterprise.
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Old February 20 2013, 04:55 PM   #118
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My thought is that April's Enterprise in this universe was the ringship version.
It's not. There's a flashback to April's mission to Phaedus, and you see the ship on page 12. To me, it looks to be about halfway between the Matt Jeffries Enterprise and the NuTrek Enterprise.
Ah! ah!! Wanna see! Wanna see!!
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DUDE! C'mon. You should know better. This isn't your first week on these boards.
Sorry, I thought that particular aspect was common knowledge and a selling point?
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Old February 20 2013, 05:19 PM   #120
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Sorry, I thought that particular aspect was common knowledge and a selling point?
No, it isn't revealed until late in the book.
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