The Walking Dead Season 3 - Page 76

wissaboo · February 18 2013, 04:23 PM

PKerr wrote:

Vendikarr wrote:

PKerr wrote:

OK cool stats but of those 155,000 how many are murder/suicide/car accident/fire and so on with potential head trauma?

That and we have seen that some reanimate quickly and then others take days, I find it hard to believe that it would spread so quickly and not be contained.

I get that George bites Bill and Bill bites Suzy and so on but somewhere along the lines G.I. Joe or Billy Bob redneck is going to step in an kill 10-20 in a ratio comparison.
Let alone Attack helicopter/tank Vs. Herd, me thinks that would be pretty one sided.
Heck a tank would never have to fire, just drive around.

There are a couple of things you have to consider. First would be this taking a foothold before anyone realizes what is going on. Hospital staff would be the first to go because they are the front line to the first cases.

Also there is the human factor. People will be in shock at the horror of the situation, and will not react rationally. Many will elect to be with their families rather than where they are supposed to be.

A lack of knowledge will also allow this to spread. Head shots are not the first thought of anyone firing a gun, especially those using automatic or semi-automatic weapons. Tearing up a walking corpse by torso shots, and having it keep on coming may discourage many shooters, and they may give up shooting before trying a more difficult head shot.

I think in the first week or so is when the zombies will maximize their numbers, due to fear and ignorance of the situation. Then it will become very difficult to effectively eradicate them.

Even with an attack helicopter, only head shots will stop them. you may chew them up a bit, but if they can move, they will keep moving.

So there were never any Zombie movies in this universes?
practically everyone knows you have to shoot them in the head.

no there isn't. That is why they don't call them zombies.

PKerr · February 18 2013, 04:55 PM

wissaboo wrote:

PKerr wrote:

Vendikarr wrote:

There are a couple of things you have to consider. First would be this taking a foothold before anyone realizes what is going on. Hospital staff would be the first to go because they are the front line to the first cases.

Also there is the human factor. People will be in shock at the horror of the situation, and will not react rationally. Many will elect to be with their families rather than where they are supposed to be.

A lack of knowledge will also allow this to spread. Head shots are not the first thought of anyone firing a gun, especially those using automatic or semi-automatic weapons. Tearing up a walking corpse by torso shots, and having it keep on coming may discourage many shooters, and they may give up shooting before trying a more difficult head shot.

I think in the first week or so is when the zombies will maximize their numbers, due to fear and ignorance of the situation. Then it will become very difficult to effectively eradicate them.

Even with an attack helicopter, only head shots will stop them. you may chew them up a bit, but if they can move, they will keep moving.

So there were never any Zombie movies in this universes?
practically everyone knows you have to shoot them in the head.

no there isn't. That is why they don't call them zombies.

OIC

sojourner · February 18 2013, 06:27 PM

the G-man wrote:

1. Walkers have a rudimentary hive mind

No.

Bob Morton · February 18 2013, 06:39 PM

Carol's hope came to be; I bet that gun's still loaded.

Alpha Romeo · February 18 2013, 07:27 PM

whatever movement/odor/energy sense used by the walkers should have set season two's conclusion in motion long before the time period in that episode, or at least a version of the invasion.

It did...watch the season 2 finale again.

FreezeC77 · February 18 2013, 07:48 PM

Was anyone else pretty underwhelmed by the zombie dump in the prison by Woodbury? I mean when I saw the truck go crashing through the gate I figured it would have guys in full on military body armor jump out and try to take-over the prison... Then we got a buncha walkers and is it supposed to be something "OMG. LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID TO THE PRISON?" effect on the viewer?

Darn Woodbury they just dumped a couple dozen walkers into a prison yard where the group have already killed 10 times...20 times... or more that many walkers already.

It's almost like they just dumped a flaming bag of poop on their doorstep and rang the bell and then ran away.

auntiehill · February 18 2013, 07:59 PM

I loved the scenes with Daryl and Merle, and the fact that Daryl is clearly the more competent of the two. He DID have the right direction, after all. I liked the scene where Daryl saves the family and tells Merle off.

I'm interested to see just how long Merle will last with the other survivors. Not too long, I would imagine.

Jax · February 18 2013, 07:59 PM

FreezeC77 wrote:

Was anyone else pretty underwhelmed by the zombie dump in the prison by Woodbury? I mean when I saw the truck go crashing through the gate I figured it would have guys in full on military body armor jump out and try to take-over the prison... Then we got a buncha walkers and is it supposed to be something "OMG. LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID TO THE PRISON?" effect on the viewer?

Darn Woodbury they just dumped a couple dozen walkers into a prison yard where the group have already killed 10 times...20 times... or more that many walkers already.

It's almost like they just dumped a flaming bag of poop on their doorstep and rang the bell and then ran away.

I don't think the Governor wants to kill them so quick, he wants to terrify them and torture them.

the G-man · February 18 2013, 08:03 PM

sojourner wrote:

the G-man wrote:

1. Walkers have a rudimentary hive mind

No.

I am happy to be proven wrong on this point. However, several things had led me to think this was "canon" at this point (or as "canon" as anything about the walkers is at this point):

1. Both Shane and Jim had flashes of zombies as they died as if they were seeing things through the eyes of other walkers.
2. The way that a walker will react to something almost wordlessly and the zombies nearby will seem to pick up on it.

Borgminister · February 18 2013, 08:27 PM

"wordlessly"?

the G-man · February 18 2013, 08:29 PM

Walker sees human, walker reacts without saying anything because they can't talk, other walkers start turning around and reacting as well.

You might get a hiss or grunt out of one, but nothing that would suggestion verbal communication was used

sojourner · February 18 2013, 09:33 PM

They're just attracted to motion/sound in general. Regardless of the source. No "hive mind" needed.

sidious618 · February 18 2013, 09:51 PM

auntiehill wrote:

I loved the scenes with Daryl and Merle, and the fact that Daryl is clearly the more competent of the two. He DID have the right direction, after all. I liked the scene where Daryl saves the family and tells Merle off.

I'm interested to see just how long Merle will last with the other survivors. Not too long, I would imagine.

I find Merle to be one of the more entertaining characters on the show so I hope he sticks around for a while.

Silvercrest · February 18 2013, 10:05 PM

wissaboo wrote:

Besides, I think everyone is missing the most important aspect of the episode, Daryl is back and saw Merle for what he really is

That is: Merle doesn't know Yellow Jacket Creek when he sees it.

Mr. Adventure · February 18 2013, 10:07 PM

I think it's funny how Merle is full of malice but seems low on guile and deceit. Like he's very upfront to everyone about being an asshole even when it's not to his advantage.

February 18 2013, 06:39 PM	#1129
Bob Morton Lieutenant Commander Location: BC, Canada	Re: The Walking Dead Season 3 Carol's hope came to be; I bet that gun's still loaded. __________________ Say, I hope you won't think it "evil" of me to ask how you got that stylish head wound?

February 18 2013, 07:48 PM	#1131
FreezeC77 Commodore	Re: The Walking Dead Season 3 Was anyone else pretty underwhelmed by the zombie dump in the prison by Woodbury? I mean when I saw the truck go crashing through the gate I figured it would have guys in full on military body armor jump out and try to take-over the prison... Then we got a buncha walkers and is it supposed to be something "OMG. LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID TO THE PRISON?" effect on the viewer? Darn Woodbury they just dumped a couple dozen walkers into a prison yard where the group have already killed 10 times...20 times... or more that many walkers already. It's almost like they just dumped a flaming bag of poop on their doorstep and rang the bell and then ran away.

February 18 2013, 07:59 PM	#1132
auntiehill Fleet Admiral Location: av by Chemahkuu	Re: The Walking Dead Season 3 I loved the scenes with Daryl and Merle, and the fact that Daryl is clearly the more competent of the two. He DID have the right direction, after all. I liked the scene where Daryl saves the family and tells Merle off. I'm interested to see just how long Merle will last with the other survivors. Not too long, I would imagine.

February 18 2013, 08:27 PM	#1135
Borgminister Moderator Location: California	Re: The Walking Dead Season 3 "wordlessly"?

February 18 2013, 08:29 PM	#1136
the G-man Commodore Location: to your immediate right	Re: The Walking Dead Season 3 Walker sees human, walker reacts without saying anything because they can't talk, other walkers start turning around and reacting as well. You might get a hiss or grunt out of one, but nothing that would suggestion verbal communication was used

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February 18 2013, 09:33 PM	#1137
sojourner Vice Admiral Location: I'm at WKRP	Re: The Walking Dead Season 3 They're just attracted to motion/sound in general. Regardless of the source. No "hive mind" needed. __________________ Baby, you and me were never meant to be, just maybe think of me once in a while...

February 18 2013, 10:07 PM	#1140
Mr. Adventure Admiral Location: Mr. Adventure	Re: The Walking Dead Season 3 I think it's funny how Merle is full of malice but seems low on guile and deceit. Like he's very upfront to everyone about being an asshole even when it's not to his advantage.