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Old February 12 2013, 03:30 AM   #16
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Re: a 198'' model of the USS Enterprise NCC 1701-A

thanks blsswlf for the suggestion. I will look into it.

i'll try another question, this one regarding the interior of a nacelle. Is there an official or a most accepted version of the inside? I was thinking about combining elements from these sources: Constitution blueprints, Jackill's seems to have two versions. Found a simple schematics in Schmidt Starfleet dynamics also.

I think it's blssdwlf who came up with a design with moving parts at the end of the TOS nacelles. Found this very clever. Mind if I borrow your idea and incorporate it in this model?
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Old February 12 2013, 04:30 AM   #17
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Re: a 198'' model of the USS Enterprise NCC 1701-A

Don't mind at all. The movie Enterprise didn't really seem to have any moving parts on the nacelles but it'll be interesting to see what you come up with. I think you have quite a bit of creative freedom since they only showed just a handful of locations/sets over a limited number of movies
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Old February 12 2013, 07:23 PM   #18
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Re: a 198'' model of the USS Enterprise NCC 1701-A

I really want to see some pictures.

But I'm selfish.
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Old February 12 2013, 09:30 PM   #19
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Re: a 198'' model of the USS Enterprise NCC 1701-A

Stephane-1974 wrote: View Post
thanks blsswlf for the suggestion. I will look into it.

i'll try another question, this one regarding the interior of a nacelle. Is there an official or a most accepted version of the inside? I was thinking about combining elements from these sources: Constitution blueprints, Jackill's seems to have two versions. Found a simple schematics in Schmidt Starfleet dynamics also.

I think it's blssdwlf who came up with a design with moving parts at the end of the TOS nacelles. Found this very clever. Mind if I borrow your idea and incorporate it in this model?
This sounds like an awesome idea - looking forward to seeing the progress.

As for interior design, the interior pieces you get with the Polar Lights kit seem to be close to "accepted", as far as I can tell. Other good resources:
Y'know, this project reminds me of something I read about Douglas Trumball, when he was working on TMP, I recall he originally wanted a super-large scale model of the refit, around this size you're planning, so that viewers could get a real idea of the scale of the ship. The idea was obviously nixed in favor of what was eventually built, but this definitely feels like it's in the same spirit. Good luck!
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Old February 13 2013, 02:24 PM   #20
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Re: a 198'' model of the USS Enterprise NCC 1701-A

to blssdwlf
thanks for the permission to use your idea

to 137th Gebirg, thanks, got those and it's great reference material. Also using some of Jackill's work and a few other sources. Will try to contact Mr Trumbull.

it's funny cause for all other ships you can find info regarding everything... but Enterprise A seems to have very little available while being the most recognized sci-fi vessel. kind of strange no? hehehe

so if anyone out there has any image or technical reference on the skeleton of the ship, ideas, perhaps even concepts on how it should be made. please let me know

today i'll be setting the secondary hull aside and start working on a nacelle. pictures coming soon.
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Old February 13 2013, 11:08 PM   #21
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Re: a 198'' model of the USS Enterprise NCC 1701-A

Are you building the Refit or the -A?
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Old February 14 2013, 07:34 PM   #22
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Re: a 198'' model of the USS Enterprise NCC 1701-A

I'm assuming he's building the A since it's in the thread title. But what version of the A?! Personally, I am in the minority in saying that I like the A bridge from ST:TFF. It's clean, simple, and bright.

Ya- I'm curious which version too... There are so many from movie to movie. Changes to the bridge. Engineering. Shuttle decks.

Actually, a good source for images would be Trek Core's screen caps section. Lot's of great reference pictures there!
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Old February 15 2013, 05:50 AM   #23
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Re: a 198'' model of the USS Enterprise NCC 1701-A

Actually I did assume the A as well but I've seen many people refer to the refit as the A. I prefer the TMP version of the refit and the TVH version of the A.
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Old February 15 2013, 07:04 PM   #24
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Enterprise A. Deciding which version of the A was very difficult. I prefer the bridge from the Final Frontier, for the same reasons Patrickvan mentioned, but the Hangar deck from Enterprise Refit. What to do? An easy solution would be to pretend that it's Enterprise somewhere in time after installing that version of the bridge(TFF) module but before changing the hangar deck. Practical but far from being canon.

At that scale, i intend to make figurines to act as crew. They would be over an inch tall. The uniform came to play a big part in the decision. For the time being it's TFF version, even it means the later version of the shuttle deck. Eventually, if time permits (if i don't die of old age before completing this project ha!) I would very much like to build all variants.

ideas and suggestions are very much welcomed
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Old February 16 2013, 09:48 PM   #25
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Re: a 198'' model of the USS Enterprise NCC 1701-A

A lot of people may hate it, but a Planet of the Titans Enterprise might make for a very good first time large model. The secondary hull is largely open in the back, and the shapes are very simple:
http://trekweb.com/articles/2010/02/...ek-Movie.shtml
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=67493

Details
http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/s...h-Flooor-Tests

Now, the reason I mention this is that this is the largest of all Enterprise concepts, and the saucer could be super-detailed, with you spending less time trying to match Probert's fluid shapes on your first go.
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Old February 17 2013, 11:13 PM   #26
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Why not do the NCC-1701 from the TMP movie... it had a better perlescent finish...
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Old February 18 2013, 12:37 PM   #27
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Stephane, how do I contact you?

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Old February 18 2013, 03:13 PM   #28
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Re: a 198'' model of the USS Enterprise NCC 1701-A

good morning everyone! what a great Monday morning this is.

----UPDATE----
today, cutting parts on the cnc router table! WOOOT!!!

the parts are for the rings forming the secondary hull. I'll take pictures and film too. If all goes well, this evening she will start to take form.

----ANSWERS----
to publiusr - i think i'll stick to the Enterprise A. Thanks for the links, those are very cool concepts and perhaps some elements could be included in Enterprise.

to CuttingEdge100 - TMP Enterprise has a very cool paint job indeed. Did not take time to study colors and 'finish' variations yet, could you be of assistance?

to William66 - you can email me at datavinci.studio@gmail.com or you through facebook https://www.facebook.com/steph.letrespresent

----COMMENTS----
building a project like this, i don't think it's been done before. There are a few very large model of Enterprise but it's usually exterior only and if it has some interior parts it's still not the entire ship. Meaning that you don't plan a hangar addition to a hollow model the same way you would for a model that is made deck for deck.

making the superstructure of the ship is proving to be a MAJOR challenge. Since i'm pretty sure it won't be right on the first try, i am making it in a way that parts can be changed. It's sounds complicated but it is not.

Contacted Mr. Probert to get some guidelines on how he envisioned Enterprise. From there, went back to make corrections to what was drawn. Trying to use as much as possible reference from 'official' sources for what's known and keeping as original to 'trek' design for the unknown.

Finally, to honor the people who worked on Enterprise, i'm trying to put in a bit of everyone's designs and ideas.

that's about it for the moment. Pictures coming soon

regards,

Steph
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Old February 18 2013, 03:32 PM   #29
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Re: a 198'' model of the USS Enterprise NCC 1701-A

Wow...this really sounds like a mega project. BTW...for everyone living in the metric world...198" would be about 60 meters.
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Old February 18 2013, 03:48 PM   #30
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Re: a 198'' model of the USS Enterprise NCC 1701-A

198 inches is 16 feet and a half

or

502.92 centimeter / 5.029 2 meter


60 meters that would make for one heck of a model!
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