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Old February 17 2013, 11:38 PM   #46
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Re: Which Sci-Fi shows have aged the best?

While it doesn't make a show dated in itself, I always snicker at the use of CRT's in 90s TV...it just seems so long ago. Outer Limits must have gotten a good bargain on CRT's because they use the same computers in every episode set in contemporary times.
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Old February 17 2013, 11:45 PM   #47
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I have to admit though that Kirk did like to stick it to the machines.
The scripted handling of Kirk's feelings in "The Ultimate Computer" actually predicted the future well; today, many in once tradtional factory/assembly industries, security and medical patient records/registration positions are angered that computer controlled "labor" increasingly phases out the human element every few years. It does not help that the consumer culture's blank-eyed lust for everything happening yesterday / gadget conveience, encourages industry (public and private) to cut costs while pursuing what is percieved as the more efficient business model.
I think it also could play into some of the recent concerns over the usage of military drones.
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Old February 18 2013, 12:21 AM   #48
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I have to admit though that Kirk did like to stick it to the machines.
The scripted handling of Kirk's feelings in "The Ultimate Computer" actually predicted the future well; today, many in once tradtional factory/assembly industries, security and medical patient records/registration positions are angered that computer controlled "labor" increasingly phases out the human element every few years. It does not help that the consumer culture's blank-eyed lust for everything happening yesterday / gadget conveience, encourages industry (public and private) to cut costs while pursuing what is percieved as the more efficient business model.
While this is likely to change in the next few decades, the reality actually was that as computer/robots came into greater use, the computer industry and related technologies created MORE jobs and an exploding industry that the USA in particular was innovative in. So the original fears for the 70, 80s, 90s, etc never came to pass.

As for the future, dematerialization is eliminating many physical items, robots are replacing humans at a greater rate, and some of the numbers are now showing in unemployment...the greatest cure for this on the human end is retraining.

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Old February 18 2013, 01:55 AM   #49
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The scripted handling of Kirk's feelings in "The Ultimate Computer" actually predicted the future well; today, many in once tradtional factory/assembly industries, security and medical patient records/registration positions are angered that computer controlled "labor" increasingly phases out the human element every few years.
There's nothing new about that. Fears of humans being replaced by machines have been around at least as far back as the Ballad of John Henry. And computers were already a reality in the late '60s -- not in personal use yet, but in business, government, and the military. So losing your job to a machine was already a real-world concern even then.
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Old February 18 2013, 02:03 AM   #50
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i don't think TNG in Trek has aged well. The mauve carpets and some of the earlier episodes and the effects look cheesy today.
While you were busy checking out carpets, everyone else was looking at the interactive touch interface computers and everyone walking around with tablets. TNG, aside from the plots and some of the guest stars, has aged tremendously well, ESPECIALLY given that it was birthed in the late 80's early 90's which was NOT a high point of taste and restraint.
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I have to admit though that Kirk did like to stick it to the machines.
The scripted handling of Kirk's feelings in "The Ultimate Computer" actually predicted the future well; today, many in once tradtional factory/assembly industries, security and medical patient records/registration positions are angered that computer controlled "labor" increasingly phases out the human element every few years. It does not help that the consumer culture's blank-eyed lust for everything happening yesterday / gadget conveience, encourages industry (public and private) to cut costs while pursuing what is percieved as the more efficient business model.
I think it also could play into some of the recent concerns over the usage of military drones.
I think the current drone situation is more closely related to A Taste of Armegeddon. We can now make attacks in foreign countries while "pilots" sit safely half a world away.
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Old February 18 2013, 04:36 AM   #52
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I think the current drone situation is more closely related to A Taste of Armegeddon. We can now make attacks in foreign countries while "pilots" sit safely half a world away.
I'm thinking the unmanned nature combined with the indiscriminate targeting applies more to the drone situation than simulatied war and disintegration booths.
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Old February 18 2013, 04:38 AM   #53
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No one has mentioned Stargate SG-1 yet. Aside from the big ass CRT monitors in the control room in the first few seasons, there are relatively few things that are dated. Hell, the Simpsons references are still relevant.
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Old February 18 2013, 05:18 AM   #54
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No one has mentioned Stargate SG-1 yet. Aside from the big ass CRT monitors in the control room in the first few seasons, there are relatively few things that are dated. Hell, the Simpsons references are still relevant.
Stargate will not date quickly because it was more fantasy than science fiction. The show itself is set in a specific earth time period, and the alien tech never looked like something that we would every develop on our own anyway.

X-Files has a similar advantage. Even when they dealt with "silly" things that have since been proven wrong, you could argue that we only think they are wrong and it falls in perfectly with the shows premise.
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Old February 18 2013, 05:24 AM   #55
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No one has mentioned Stargate SG-1 yet. Aside from the big ass CRT monitors in the control room in the first few seasons, there are relatively few things that are dated.
Well, Carter's defensive feminism in the original cut of the SG-1 pilot movie was already dated at the time it came out, though it's been removed from the more recent special edition.

I think it's hard to say something is dated when it's actually set in the same time that it aired. It reflects the designs, fashions, and attitudes of the era when it took place, and that fits just fine. I think that saying a work of science fiction is dated means saying that its portrayal of the future or of speculative science and technology are based on outmoded assumptions. Like a far future where women are all housewives or secretaries, Venus is a jungle planet with dinosaurs, tobacco use is considered healthy, and computers are still based on vacuum tubes.
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