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[throwback]

I will need to review the episode later tonight. My memory of the shooting is that the gun was fired from the passenger side. I, also, remember that Holmes identified the gun as an AP-15. This is a carbine rifle. In this video, the shooter is using both hands to use the rifle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPDuzmYXRJY

Maybe I am not able to conceptualize this, but I can't see how a person can simultaneous fire a rifle and drive a car perfectly straight in a lane.

And, I love how Detective Bell's car manage to find the one construction zone with a ramp so that the car could execute a perfect stuntcar crash.

[Guy Gardener]

Your mother never used to drive with her knees while applying make up, when she'd take you to school?

[Christopher]

throwback wrote:

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I will need to review the episode later tonight. My memory of the shooting is that the gun was fired from the passenger side. I, also, remember that Holmes identified the gun as an AP-15. This is a carbine rifle. In this video, the shooter is using both hands to use the rifle.

Well, maybe they got their research wrong; it would hardly be the first time in the history of television. But Holmes did definitely say the gun could be fired one-handed, so the intent of the writers was that there was only one person in the car, even if the details don't mesh with reality.

[Guy Gardener]

They also said several times the the gun had been modified.

A soldier of fortune magazine, a file and 30 minutes can do wonders.

[kNkg]

It was a MP5 not AP-15.

[throwback]

I watched the episode. There is one person in the car.

A MP5 in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZaIX6LccTg

A MP5 being fired with one hand:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8jHFH1PAXo

[Keith1701]

Nerys Myk wrote:

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So Irene will be played by Snookie?

I just started watching ELEMENTARY this season, and what I have seen so far is very good and enjoyable.

[sojourner]

^You didn't miss much in the previous season.

[Saul]

That last episode was set up in a way where I could figure out who did it early on.

Why didn't Holmes explore that first which would have taken the audience off that lead. tut tut.

[Allyn Gibson]

Christopher wrote:

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What worries me was that line from Sherlock about not quite being sure why Watson made him better, and how he might solve that mystery in time -- followed by an uneasy look between them. That felt uncomfortably like an Unresolved Sexual Tension beat. I really hope they don't go there.

I did not read that line that way at all. Rather, I was reminded of this passage from The Hound of the Baskervilles:

"I am bound to say that in all the accounts which you have been so good as to give of my own small achievements you have habitually underrated your own abilities. It may be that you are not yourself luminous, but you are a conductor of light. Some people without possessing genius have a remarkable power of stimulating it. I confess, my dear fellow, that I am very much in your debt."

I think Holmes, at this point in his relationship with Watson, is beginning to recognize that she is his conductor of light but it's still so early that he can't put it into words.

That's how I read the scene, anyway.

[Christopher]

^I hope you're right. On another BBS I'm on, a couple of the regulars are talking about a Holmes-Watson romance as if it's inevitable -- somehow forgetting all the shows out there, including several other CBS series, where the male and female leads have platonic relationships.

[Spot's Meow]

I also didn't pick up on any romance or sexual tension in the scene. I interpreted their awkward glance at the end of the conversation as a result of Sherlock's reluctance to emotionally connect with others. It's like he wants to say "I care about you" but just doesn't know how. I thought it was telling that he was only able to express himself to Watson when her back was turned. As soon as she turned around, he looked away uncomfortably.

[Allyn Gibson]

Christopher wrote:

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^I hope you're right. On another BBS I'm on, a couple of the regulars are talking about a Holmes-Watson romance as if it's inevitable -- somehow forgetting all the shows out there, including several other CBS series, where the male and female leads have platonic relationships.

The problem with calling a Holmes/Watson romance "inevitable" is that it's pretty clear by now that Watson isn't Holmes' "type." She doesn't strike me as someone who would be into the rough, kinky sex that Holmes enjoys, and he's direct with women he finds attractive. Judging by the evidence we've had thus far, Holmes wants nothing more than a professional relationship with Watson.

[lurok]

Been binge-watching this while on the road and just got to the M ep 12 (Vinnie Jones? wha? ). Plots are predictable but I love how unpretentious it is: no artsy directing gimmicks or narrative tricks. Just great acting and dialogue and nice use of NY locations. Looking forward to second half of first season. Dying to know who Moriarty is and when appears. Would be nice touch if made female. I adore the old Billy Wilder Private Life Of SH movie which, if remember correctly, had a female antagonist?

[davejames]

Allyn Gibson wrote:

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The problem with calling a Holmes/Watson romance "inevitable" is that it's pretty clear by now that Watson isn't Holmes' "type." She doesn't strike me as someone who would be into the rough, kinky sex that Holmes enjoys, and he's direct with women he finds attractive. Judging by the evidence we've had thus far, Holmes wants nothing more than a professional relationship with Watson.

I can sense a hint of physical attraction between the two (with Lucy it would be hard not to), but I agree they don't seem like they'd be that great a couple, and I have no interest whatsoever in seeing them together.


And I have to say I'm kinda surprised at the recent change from Watson being Sherlock's sober companion to now being a "junior detective." Clearly it was in the plans all along, but it does seem like a pretty big shift in the show's concept.

Although I have to admit, it is nice seeing her take some actual joy and enthusiasm in the work now, instead of being so dour all the time like before.