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Old February 16 2013, 01:40 AM   #136
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Re: Uhura replacing McCoy/Bones?

Trek is often guilty of giving 'inappropriate' tasks to main characters - I view Spock as primarily a physicist with expertise in Sensors, Maths, and Computing but he often deals with communications issues and engineering issues. Programming the Kobayashi Maru test fits with his character though and he might be delegated the task of assigning cadets because he was most recently involved in assessing them. Like Data you feel that Spock just needs more hours in the day and he could run everything single-handed.

I recall one episode of Voyager where the crew had to go on a geology mission. Instead of introducing a ship's geologist, they picked main characters who had taken geology for one semester and Neelix because he went in a cave once.

As a trained biologist and a qualified medic, Chapel could have gone on loads more away missions than she did.

In 2 hour movies it will be hard to give all the characters interesting and appropriate moments to shine but from the pictures I've seen it does look as though Uhura is going to be given a more prominent role. I hope they give her something to do because she is qualified to do it not because they want the heroine to be in peril or because she's out to help her man.
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Old February 16 2013, 02:09 AM   #137
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Isn't it possible that the assignment she first got was a better post on a "lesser" ship and thus offered better opportunities for advancement? Maybe cadets should have to work their way up a bit no matter who or how good they are?
Define 'possible'. Do you mean that, in-story, Uhura cannot know for certain that the post she perceives as inferior is not necessary or better for her? I have nothing that can prove she could. OTOH if you're just inviting me to speculate that that may in fact have been the case, then I'd have to disagree. The Enterprise is the flagship. Nothing really trumps that.

But none of that matters. 'Destiny' is as close as we can get to an overriding theme of ST09, and it's Uhura's destiny to be, for a time at least, the Communications Officer of the USS Enterprise, Captain James T. Kirk commanding. If you don't like the attitude she takes in the course of fulfilling that destiny, what can I say? You don't like it. I can't really talk you out of that.

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Yup.
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Old February 17 2013, 03:10 PM   #138
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I recall one episode of Voyager where the crew had to go on a geology mission. Instead of introducing a ship's geologist, they picked main characters who had taken geology for one semester and Neelix because he went in a cave once.
Budgetwise, of course, they usually need to maximise the use of the contracted feature actors.
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Old February 17 2013, 05:34 PM   #139
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I recall one episode of Voyager where the crew had to go on a geology mission. Instead of introducing a ship's geologist, they picked main characters who had taken geology for one semester and Neelix because he went in a cave once.
Budgetwise, of course, they usually need to maximise the use of the contracted feature actors.
There was also the premise in Voyager that half the trained and qualified Starfleet crew complement had been lost during the catastrophic trip to the Delta quadrant in the pilot episode, necessitating their joining of forces with the Maquis crew and leading to duty shifts by some characters in areas other than that of their specialty (e.g., Tom Paris doing some duty in Sick Bay because he'd received some secondary medical training.) Voyager fudged on this often enough that it was good to see them at least trying to remember that "Oh, hey, we probably don't have a dedicated ship's geologist any more - he was killed in 'Caretaker, Part 1,' right?"
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Old February 17 2013, 10:52 PM   #140
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Trek is often guilty of giving 'inappropriate' tasks to main characters
Yup.
I did like the way that occasionally in TOS we'd get to see Scotty's repair crews actually doing stuff in engineering (albeit under Scott's direction). Seemed much more realistic.
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Old February 18 2013, 08:54 AM   #141
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I recall one episode of Voyager where the crew had to go on a geology mission. Instead of introducing a ship's geologist, they picked main characters who had taken geology for one semester and Neelix because he went in a cave once.
Budgetwise, of course, they usually need to maximise the use of the contracted feature actors.
There was also the premise in Voyager that half the trained and qualified Starfleet crew complement had been lost during the catastrophic trip to the Delta quadrant in the pilot episode, necessitating their joining of forces with the Maquis crew and leading to duty shifts by some characters in areas other than that of their specialty (e.g., Tom Paris doing some duty in Sick Bay because he'd received some secondary medical training.) Voyager fudged on this often enough that it was good to see them at least trying to remember that "Oh, hey, we probably don't have a dedicated ship's geologist any more - he was killed in 'Caretaker, Part 1,' right?"
They didn't lose as many crewmen as you think but another example is Ensign Wildman, an honest-to-god science officer. Basically they used her once or twice a year as part of the latest mommy in space story. She never got to be involved in any science plot that didn't also involve her role as a mother - that would always be shuffled off to Janeway, Kim, or Seven.
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Old February 21 2013, 05:49 AM   #142
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of course it make sense as the studio hopes to capture that "Twilight" vibe by giving Spock a love interest, which makes me believe even more that they just don't get it.
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Old February 21 2013, 06:24 AM   #143
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of course it make sense as the studio hopes to capture that "Twilight" vibe by giving Spock a love interest, which makes me believe even more that they just don't get it.
It may come as a surprise, but there was romance in movies before "Twilight".
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Old February 21 2013, 06:32 AM   #144
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of course it make sense as the studio hopes to capture that "Twilight" vibe by giving Spock a love interest, which makes me believe even more that they just don't get it.

"Twilight" has nothing to do with it. But please, enlighten us as to what "They" don't get. . .


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Old February 21 2013, 06:34 AM   #145
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of course it make sense as the studio hopes to capture that "Twilight" vibe by giving Spock a love interest, which makes me believe even more that they just don't get it.
Because Spock never had a love interest prior to ST09.
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Old February 21 2013, 09:45 AM   #146
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You need a sarcasm smiley on that last comment. It's more accurate to say that a love interest has never been so in our faces in any of the TOS movies but even that isn't quite true - we had Decker and Ilia - but in most of the movies the 'romance' element was very understated - we had implied sexual tension between Spock and Saavik, flirtation between Kirk and Gillian, and Spock's permanent boner whenever Valeris was in the room.
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Old February 21 2013, 12:33 PM   #147
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of course it make sense as the studio hopes to capture that "Twilight" vibe by giving Spock a love interest, which makes me believe even more that they just don't get it.

omg...omg....omg...my worst nightmare. Twilight and Star Trek in the same sentense.

please dont ever compare twilight and star trek to each other ever ever again.

twilight is just about the worst series ever.

I also doubt the writers paired S/U together to get the twilight base....every movie , regardless of its genre have always had a romance.

twilight has one of the WORST romance stories ever.
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of course it make sense as the studio hopes to capture that "Twilight" vibe by giving Spock a love interest, which makes me believe even more that they just don't get it.
They get it just fine. Do you?
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of course it make sense as the studio hopes to capture that "Twilight" vibe by giving Spock a love interest, which makes me believe even more that they just don't get it.

omg...omg....omg...my worst nightmare. Twilight and Star Trek in the same sentense.

please dont ever compare twilight and star trek to each other ever ever again.

twilight is just about the worst series ever.

I also doubt the writers paired S/U together to get the twilight base....every movie , regardless of its genre have always had a romance.

twilight has one of the WORST romance stories ever.
Uh-uh.

Remember what happened the last time you got all wound up on that subject, and put your teen-ranty Twilight hate-posts in a blog entry instead.

Not here.
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Old February 21 2013, 08:05 PM   #150
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of course it make sense as the studio hopes to capture that "Twilight" vibe by giving Spock a love interest, which makes me believe even more that they just don't get it.

omg...omg....omg...my worst nightmare. Twilight and Star Trek in the same sentense.

please dont ever compare twilight and star trek to each other ever ever again.

twilight is just about the worst series ever.

I also doubt the writers paired S/U together to get the twilight base....every movie , regardless of its genre have always had a romance.

twilight has one of the WORST romance stories ever.
Uh-uh.

Remember what happened the last time you got all wound up on that subject, and put your teen-ranty Twilight hate-posts in a blog entry instead.

Not here.
Dont worry...it would not happen again. But come on?

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