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Old February 14 2013, 10:13 PM   #271
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Re: Die Hard V - Not Looking Good...

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You have to wonder how relevant rottentomatoes think they are, since the critics give it 14% and the nearly 27.5 thousand bum-on-seat reviews give it 82%.
Die Hard V is probably the very definition of "mindless action movie". The problem is that there have been some VERY smart action movies like Terminator 2 and the original Die Hard over the years.

Fans really should be expecting more in terms of quality.
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Old February 15 2013, 01:57 AM   #272
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The critics all share the same criticisms, so I guess it's pretty valid.
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Old February 15 2013, 02:12 AM   #273
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It sounds so bad that I almost want to see it, just so I can keep making fun of it.
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Old February 15 2013, 11:37 AM   #274
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It's only valid if the cinema-going public have the same experience as the critics, which is clearly not happening. There's no way such a huge disparity in rating can reflect well on the critics.
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Old February 15 2013, 03:15 PM   #275
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I'll reserve judgement until I see it. However, one of the frequent complaints I've seen is one also (rightfully) levelled at Live Free..., namely that McClane is no longer a reluctant everyman, unwillingly drawn into a dnagerous situation, but is an invulnerable superman, defeating everything in his path. If that's right, then the makers of this movie, like those of the last one, seem to have overlooked much of what made the original movie and character so appealing and memorable.
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Old February 15 2013, 04:53 PM   #276
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There's no way such a huge disparity in rating can reflect well on the critics.
It won't matter one way or the other. There are all too many movies that are reviewed terribly (almost always deservedly so) that go on to make ridiculous amounts of money. And vice versa.

The human adventure continues...

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Old February 16 2013, 08:05 PM   #277
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Oh dear.

I hate to be so negative, but the first Die Hard movie is, for my money, the best action movie ever. And I love the next two in the series, even the much maligned Die Hard 2: Die Harder.

Die Hard 4.0 had its moments, but was let down by Les Wiseman's humdrum direction (sir, you're no John McTiernan) and the fact that someone took soap and water to John McClane's previously gloriously filthy potty mouth.

Those of us hoping for a return to form are unlikely to be heartened by the fact that DH5 will apparently pair up journeyman director John Moore (who so far has given us forgettable remakes of The Omen and Flight of the Phoenix, as well as May Payne and Behind Enemy Lines) with writer Skip Woods, of Wolverine and The A-Team fame (or forgettability).

Now, maybe this will be the movie where the two of them prove the naysayers wrong... but I'm not optimistic. Anyone care to change my mind?

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=81665

http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/john...ll-helm-red-2/

After a long search process, 20th Century Fox and Bruce Willis have just chosen John Moore to direct Die Hard 5. The film will shoot in Russia

As for Die Hard 5, Moore is in final negotiations and was in the running through the entire search as Fox tried to find a filmmaker that pleased Willis and the studio execs that have to shoot this movie in Russia and bring it in on a budget and a tight schedule. Fox has been looking for a new director since Noam Murro left the picture after he got the job [COLOR=#0568f9]helming[/COLOR] 300: Battle Of Artemisia for Warner Bros. The studio started with a wish list of directors to helm the script by Skip Woods that included Joe Cornish (who directed Attack the Block), Fast Five helmer Justin Lin, Drive director Nicolas Winding Refn, and Moore. More recently, I’d heard Fox had conversations with helmers that included Gary Fleder, Paul McGuigan and 1408 helmer Mikael Hafstrom.

Moore didn’t have to necessarily sell Fox; the studio loves the Irishman. But he did have to convince Willis, who has been very hands-on in the selection of Die Hard directors. Moore and Willis had long meetings and Willis was swayed by Moore’s love for the John McClane character, and his grasp of how to shoot practical, non-CGI-heavy action scenes that have been a hallmark of the Die Hard series.
I'm still looking forward to seeing the new movie.
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Old February 16 2013, 09:16 PM   #278
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I saw the film last night at the Arclight Cinemas in Sherman Oaks. Save your money, this movie is garbage. Just plain awful.
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Old February 16 2013, 09:57 PM   #279
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Save your money, this movie is garbage. Just plain awful.
Conversely, I saw it earlier today. Spend your money, it was great, go watch.
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Old February 16 2013, 10:18 PM   #280
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I didn't spend money, didn't see it, and have no thoughts on this subject.
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Old February 17 2013, 12:02 AM   #281
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It's the best movie I've seen this year.


And the only one.
And that is the problem.

It's very weak. I like Part Three a lot better now. I never thought I'd come to that conclusion. Too little Cole Hauser, no other American character actors to liven it up.....

And the obligatory heroic slo-mo moment. What's wrong with regular motion for stars? It wouldn't look less dramatic. Why do the VILLAINS never move in slow motion, with the exception of Hans Gruber?

I only liked the five-second Alan Rickman homage and the ''Ode to Joy'' ringtone.
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Old February 17 2013, 01:02 AM   #282
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I didn't spend money, didn't see it, and have no thoughts on this subject.
Now that was a pretty pointless post, wasn't it?
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Old February 17 2013, 01:02 AM   #283
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One of the biggest problems for me is that the McGuffin is not well explained, so it’s not clear what the McClanes are fighting for other than to save their own skin. The file seems like it would not have very significant implications except for a few people, and there are no apparent threats to anyone but the combatants.

It violates what I thought to be the tradition of the franchise: with each successive sequel, the playing field is larger, the action more intense, and the stakes much higher. Hans takes about 30 hostages in a plot to steal $600 million, Stuart takes several airliners hostage in a plot to free General Esperanza, Simon threatens to blow up a school and creates complete chaos in New York City in a plot to steal $140 billion, and Gabriel targets “the accumulated wealth of the United States” while crippling much of the nation’s infrastructure in order to make a point.

Publicity for A Good Day to Die Hard said that McClane & Son had to stop “a terrorist plot that threatens the stability of the free world.” I figured that after preventing a war in #5, the sixth and final film in the franchise would have McClane battling a plot that threatens the entire human race, like Twelve Monkeys and Rainbox Six. Unfortunately, #5 never feels like they’re fighting for such high stakes, and since it seems TPTB do not have the same view that I did about the traditions of the franchise that I did, it now seems unlikely we’ll get a battle to save the human race in #6.
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Old February 17 2013, 01:09 AM   #284
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I didn't spend money, didn't see it, and have no thoughts on this subject.
Now that was a pretty pointless post, wasn't it?
No more pointless than taking seriously something that was meant to be senselessly silly.
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Old February 17 2013, 01:14 AM   #285
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I didn't spend money, didn't see it, and have no thoughts on this subject.
Now that was a pretty pointless post, wasn't it?
No more pointless than taking seriously something that was meant to be senselessly silly.
Dude, this is a movie discussion thread.

If everyone went "Oooh I loved how silly it was.", there wouldn't be any need for it.
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