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Old February 14 2013, 10:29 PM   #46
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Re: William Shatner Calls J.J. Abrams "a Pig" for Hogging Both Star Tr

Shatner's comments are obviously a joke on his part, and I imagine Abrams took them as such too. There's nothing to see here, people.
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Old February 14 2013, 11:28 PM   #47
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like most jokes there is some kernel of truth...
Who told you that? 'Taint so and ain't the point.
Oh, I beg to differ my friend. The Shat is annoyed with JJ, no doubt in my mind.
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Old February 14 2013, 11:31 PM   #48
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No he's not.

Honestly, I doubt he ever wanted a part in any Abrams film. He's having too much fun hanging with the fans and making docs.
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Old February 14 2013, 11:45 PM   #49
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Abrams should have Shatner play a Jedi in Episode VII.
OMG that is too funny
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Old February 15 2013, 04:14 AM   #50
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both of which are essentially action movies.
... pffft.

That made me laugh thanks. You have quite a sense of humor.

The action did accent the story of those movies well though. They did go a bit overboard on First Contact though, the dialog made up for though.
TWOK is an action movie. That was the point, Paramount wanted a cheap action movie so that they could recover from the damage done by TMP.
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Old February 15 2013, 04:24 AM   #51
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Re: William Shatner Calls J.J. Abrams "a Pig" for Hogging Both Star Tr

Beg to take issue with you. The battle scenes between the Enterprise and the Reliant were the idea of Nick Meyer, director of the film. Paramount, or rather Harve Bennett, liked it. But there was no insistance from the studio on a battle scene at all.
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Old February 15 2013, 04:52 AM   #52
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Beg to take issue with you. The battle scenes between the Enterprise and the Reliant were the idea of Nick Meyer, director of the film. Paramount, or rather Harve Bennett, liked it. But there was no insistance from the studio on a battle scene at all.
No. The style may have been Meyer's idea, but you're being naive if you think the studio didn't have an X-plosion preference.
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Old February 15 2013, 04:57 AM   #53
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Beg to take issue with you. The battle scenes between the Enterprise and the Reliant were the idea of Nick Meyer, director of the film. Paramount, or rather Harve Bennett, liked it. But there was no insistance from the studio on a battle scene at all.
When Harve Bennett was first approached by Paramount they asked him his opinion on TMP. He said he thought it was boring. They asked if he thought he could do better. When he said yes, they added "can you do it for less than forty fucking million dollars?" Bennett said he could do six movies with that much money and got the job.

A cheap action movie, that's what Paramount wanted and what they got.
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Old February 15 2013, 06:48 AM   #54
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Shatner's just mad that Abrams is winning at geek Monopoly. Shatner must have landed on his hotel.
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Old February 15 2013, 08:40 AM   #55
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Re: William Shatner Calls J.J. Abrams "a Pig" for Hogging Both Star Tr

Shatner has nothing to worry about, he's a living legend. JJ can't say that and if he rolls out a few clunkers in a row he's screwed.
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Old February 15 2013, 04:27 PM   #56
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Re: William Shatner Calls J.J. Abrams "a Pig" for Hogging Both Star Tr

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like most jokes there is some kernel of truth...
Who told you that? 'Taint so and ain't the point.
Oh, I beg to differ my friend. The Shat is annoyed with JJ, no doubt in my mind.
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No he's not.

Honestly, I doubt he ever wanted a part in any Abrams film. He's having too much fun hanging with the fans and making docs.
There is a big difference between a joke and an insult.
Shatner went way beyond the former into the territory of the latter.

That said, I'm not surprised his fans are trying to excuse his words; inevitably, the excuses are transparently feeble.
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Old February 15 2013, 04:33 PM   #57
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Yeah, you tell 'em. Who said Treknerds have no sense of humor, huh?

Oh, that was me.
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Old February 15 2013, 06:04 PM   #58
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Shatner went way beyond the former into the territory of the latter.
He really didn't.
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Old February 15 2013, 11:24 PM   #59
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Re: William Shatner Calls J.J. Abrams "a Pig" for Hogging Both Star Tr

Shatner didn't say anything different than what was said in a dozen threads here when the news came out, also with humour.
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Old February 16 2013, 06:26 AM   #60
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Shatner didn't say anything different than what was said in a dozen threads here when the news came out, also with humour.
Ah, yes - those threads where outraged fans vented their anger at the news, only to be opposed by fans welcoming the news.
You can tell right away who is joking in those threads and who doesn't care one way or the other (they're a minority).

What Shatner said - about an acquaintance, not a close friend - is not a joke.
Regardless of how explicit or implicit you try to make this assumption in transparent attempts to excuse him.
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