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Old February 16 2013, 02:09 AM   #1
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How 'bout this?

Not being familiar at all with Cumberbatches work, what if....he is not the reason behind all the destruction we see? What if Wellers character appears in the film and almost immediately kills off Harrison? Harrisons appearance in the trailer is just a red herring and Weller is actually the prime antagonist throughout the film. I don't know if Benedict is a big enough star that this would ever happen or if J.J. has the skills to throw such a curve ball.

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EBC that big of a commodity that he would not accept that kind of treatment on screen? (like Shatner and cameos)
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Old February 16 2013, 02:13 AM   #2
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Stardom has nothing to do with one's ability to play evil.

Who the fuck knew who JEJ was in 1976?
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Old February 16 2013, 02:13 AM   #3
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Yeah, I'll go with a definite no on this one.
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Old February 16 2013, 02:27 AM   #4
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Not being familiar at all with Cumberbatches work, what if....he is not the reason behind all the destruction we see? What if Wellers character appears in the film and almost immediately kills off Harrison? Harrisons appearance in the trailer is just a red herring and Weller is actually the prime antagonist throughout the film. I don't know if Benedict is a big enough star that this would ever happen or if J.J. has the skills to throw such a curve ball.

Is EBC that big of a commodity that he would not accept that kind of treatment on screen? (like Shatner and cameos)
Cumberbatch is something of a rising star and indeed the show in which he plays the lead (and titular) character has had to wait until he's available before they film the next season. Why would they do that if his character is almost immediately killed off? Hell, he wouldn't really have to put any time in on set for that.

Plus what little is known makes it very clear he will be around for a decent portion of the movie. Would he have been on the movie's poster if he weren't the main villain?
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Old February 16 2013, 02:34 AM   #5
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It would be interesting if Harrison wasn't the villain, but a rogue character on a misunderstood mission to do what needs to be done. A Bond style covert op, with a license to set his phaser to kill. A character who's actions go beyond whatever directives Starfleet abides by. Weller being the true baddie, in sheep's clothing, later to be revealed as the villain he is by Harrison and his one man war across the Federation. ...whatever's up, seems damn exciting!
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Old February 16 2013, 03:23 AM   #6
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I'd be ecstatic if Harrison was a classic foil. I would also be really, really surprised with buzzwords like "revenge" flying around.

It's sort of the one element Hollywood seems to miss these days every time it compares whatever the next villain is to Ledger-Joker.
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Old February 16 2013, 03:55 AM   #7
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Stardom has nothing to do with one's ability to play evil.

Who the fuck knew who JEJ was in 1976?
No disrespect intended towards BC. Just what I've seen of him in the trailer impresses me. Plus the obvious fan following he has. I was just wondering if BC wasn't the one making a 'cameo' and he actually wasn't the focus of the film and only a big misdirection by JJ just to fool with us. I also have not seen the '9 minutes' so I may just be talking out my azz.
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Old February 16 2013, 03:56 AM   #8
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Is
EBC that big of a commodity that he would not accept that kind of treatment on screen? (like Shatner and cameos)
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Who the fuck knew who JEJ was in 1976?
EBC? JEJ? WTF?
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Old February 16 2013, 04:14 AM   #9
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Who the fuck knew who JEJ was in 1976?
EBC? JEJ? WTF?
LOL I meant BC not EBC. My bad.
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Old February 16 2013, 05:02 AM   #10
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It would be interesting if Harrison wasn't the villain, but a rogue character on a misunderstood mission to do what needs to be done. A Bond style covert op, with a license to set his phaser to kill. A character who's actions go beyond whatever directives Starfleet abides by. Weller being the true baddie, in sheep's clothing, later to be revealed as the villain he is by Harrison and his one man war across the Federation. ...whatever's up, seems damn exciting!
Kind of like if he works for Section 31? I could get behind something like that.

I'm just pissed I won't get to see this movie on the big screen and I'm going to have to resist getting a ripped copy here...:-(
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Old February 16 2013, 05:25 AM   #11
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Who the fuck knew who JEJ was in 1976?
EBC? JEJ? WTF?
LOL I meant BC not EBC. My bad.
Ah. Thanx.

Now if only someone would reveal who the heck JEJ is.
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Old February 16 2013, 05:49 AM   #12
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Old February 16 2013, 06:18 AM   #13
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...Who was a very well known actor... long before Star Wars came along.
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Old February 16 2013, 06:51 AM   #14
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Not anymore "Well known" than Cumberbatch is now. Sort of the point of the exercise.
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Old February 16 2013, 07:10 AM   #15
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Much more well known, actually.

I remember hearing Vader speak for the first time and saying to myself "Damn, I think that's James Earl Jones."
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