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Old February 14 2013, 09:39 PM   #46
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Re: Earth based Trek show

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I simply want a show about big heroes encountering weird shit and for it to be fun.
Exactamundo!

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...the Federation has such a rich and complex history and foundation, there's so much interesting things worth exploring there. You're not tying yourself down at all.
No, it doesn't, and there isn't. The so-called "Star Trek universe" is conceptually shallow regarding politics, economics, culture and history. There is more real variety of thought, behavior and experience within four blocks of my front door than in the entire half-century of storytelling that comprises Trek.

What was brilliant about the original series was letting the audience identify with human beings who by necessity represented a fairly narrow slice of humanity - a group of young military officers, far from home, bound by traditions of service and rank that were familiar to the viewer - and keep most of humanity and the universe off-stage. The creatures and situations they encountered came across as appropriately strange by contrast, and the viewer got to fill in the missing details of that world and era through the use of their own imaginations.

Virtually every attempt by writers and producers to fill in those gaps over the decades has resulted in debate and disagreement among fans.

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Old February 14 2013, 11:43 PM   #47
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Re: Earth based Trek show

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The reasons behind a Earth-based show not working are pretty obvious. We know everybody. We know the Romulans, we know the Klingons, we know the Cardassians, we know the Vulcans, we know the Breen and so on and so on.
Ah but do we really? We got to know the Andorians much better during Enterprise than we did in any other Trek shows.

We've seen very little of the other species that make up the Federation there is a lot of stuff we dont know, lots of alliances, old grudges, species who have had disagreements in the past.
It's potentially a very rich canvas to tell intriguing stories.
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Old February 15 2013, 12:00 AM   #48
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I simply want a show about big heroes encountering weird shit and for it to be fun.
Said pretty much the same thing. Put some dudes on a spaceship and send them on their way.

An Earth based show with guys stood around chatting about the Federation, politics, diplomacy etc sounds like literally the dullest thing in the world.

As if kids would ever watch something like that.
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Old February 15 2013, 12:09 AM   #49
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Well I think it could work. Just imagine Deep Space Nine...
Make more DS9 then
That's a given since the next series will be on cable or streaming where the DS9 style is already expected - serialized, dark & gritty etc - it'll probably be even more so than DS9 ever was.

My general point was more that Star Trek is now something bigger than its name
What Star Trek means now to most people is the stuff JJ Abrams is doing with it. Which involves a lot of scenes on Earth as long as there is action, danger and colorful aliens.

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Old February 15 2013, 09:05 AM   #50
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What Star Trek means now to most people is the stuff JJ Abrams is doing with it. Which involves a lot of scenes on Earth as long as there is action, danger and colorful aliens.
Everyone knows about old Star Trek too so that's not very true.

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...the Federation has such a rich and complex history and foundation, there's so much interesting things worth exploring there. You're not tying yourself down at all.
No, it doesn't, and there isn't. The so-called "Star Trek universe" is conceptually shallow regarding politics, economics, culture and history. There is more real variety of thought, behavior and experience within four blocks of my front door than in the entire half-century of storytelling that comprises Trek.
It's a foundation and that comparison is true for every story.
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Old February 15 2013, 10:18 AM   #51
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What Star Trek means now to most people is the stuff JJ Abrams is doing with it
You ask the average person who enjoyed the last movie the name of it's producer, and they likely couldn't give you Abrams name to save their own lives.

Star Trek in no way is "the stuff JJ Abrams makes." Not in most people's minds.

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Old February 15 2013, 03:31 PM   #52
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What Star Trek means now to most people is the stuff JJ Abrams is doing with it
You ask the average person who enjoyed the last movie the name of it's producer, and they likely couldn't give you Abrams name to save their own lives.

Star Trek in no way is "the stuff JJ Abrams makes." Not in most people's minds.

If you ask the average person, Star Trek is the sci fi action movie they saw a couple years ago with Chris Pine, Zoe Saldana, and Zach Quinto. They may not think JJ Abrams, but they are not thinking about Berman Trek either.
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Old February 15 2013, 04:48 PM   #53
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Newsflash: Everyone knows Star Trek. Not everyone knows the latest explosion movies.

T'Girl, I think he meant to refer to current Trek in a roundabout way. Not to JJ Abrams.
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Old February 15 2013, 05:04 PM   #54
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Newsflash: Everyone knows Star Trek. Not everyone knows the latest explosion movies.

T'Girl, I think he meant to refer to current Trek in a roundabout way. Not to JJ Abrams.
Everyone? No, I don't think so. Some of those "latest explosion movies" are pretty popular. So it's possible that a large segment of "everyone" saw them. A segment larger than "knows" Star Trek.
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Old February 15 2013, 05:32 PM   #55
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The Earth-based Star Trek I want to see is a Starfleet Academy TV series. Trek meets Smallville. It could be a lot of fun - life on future-Earth, training missions in starships and to other worlds, cool alien exchange students and lots of teen/twentysomething angst.
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Old February 15 2013, 07:15 PM   #56
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The Earth-based Star Trek I want to see is a Starfleet Academy TV series. Trek meets Smallville. It could be a lot of fun - life on future-Earth, training missions in starships and to other worlds, cool alien exchange students and lots of teen/twentysomething angst.
Perfect show for CW
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Old February 15 2013, 08:21 PM   #57
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The Earth-based Star Trek I want to see is a Starfleet Academy TV series. Trek meets Smallville. It could be a lot of fun - life on future-Earth, training missions in starships and to other worlds, cool alien exchange students and lots of teen/twentysomething angst.
Ugh.

I'd rather there'd be no Trek on TV than following a storyline where T'Whothehellcares is worrying whether to carry her Horta fetus to term or not.
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Old February 15 2013, 08:27 PM   #58
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The Earth-based Star Trek I want to see is a Starfleet Academy TV series. Trek meets Smallville. It could be a lot of fun - life on future-Earth, training missions in starships and to other worlds, cool alien exchange students and lots of teen/twentysomething angst.
Ugh.

I'd rather there'd be no Trek on TV than following a storyline where T'Whothehellcares is worrying whether to carry her Horta fetus to term or not.
All the while the fetus is burning a message into her abdomen "NO HURT I"
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Old February 15 2013, 08:30 PM   #59
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King Daniel wrote: View Post
The Earth-based Star Trek I want to see is a Starfleet Academy TV series. Trek meets Smallville. It could be a lot of fun - life on future-Earth, training missions in starships and to other worlds, cool alien exchange students and lots of teen/twentysomething angst.
Ugh.

I'd rather there'd be no Trek on TV than following a storyline where T'Whothehellcares is worrying whether to carry her Horta fetus to term or not.
All the while the fetus is burning a message into her abdomen "NO HURT I"
Maybe the Academy can have a Glee club and sing a catchy ancient tune during each weeks episode?
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Old February 15 2013, 10:05 PM   #60
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Newsflash: Everyone knows Star Trek. Not everyone knows the latest explosion movies.

Newsflash: other way around. People are interested in the latest explosion movies. Star Trek? Not so much.
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