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Lance · February 14 2013, 10:29 PM

Shatner's comments are obviously a joke on his part, and I imagine Abrams took them as such too. There's nothing to see here, people.

Brolan · February 14 2013, 11:28 PM

My Name Is Legion wrote:

Brolan wrote:

like most jokes there is some kernel of truth...

Who told you that? 'Taint so and ain't the point.

Oh, I beg to differ my friend. The Shat is annoyed with JJ, no doubt in my mind.

CorporalClegg · February 14 2013, 11:31 PM

No he's not.

Honestly, I doubt he ever wanted a part in any Abrams film. He's having too much fun hanging with the fans and making docs.

poundpuppy29 · February 14 2013, 11:45 PM

BillJ wrote:

Abrams should have Shatner play a Jedi in Episode VII.

OMG that is too funny

The Wormhole · February 15 2013, 04:14 AM

Loskene wrote:

sonak wrote:

both of which are essentially action movies.

... pffft.

That made me laugh thanks. You have quite a sense of humor.

The action did accent the story of those movies well though. They did go a bit overboard on First Contact though, the dialog made up for though.

TWOK is an action movie. That was the point, Paramount wanted a cheap action movie so that they could recover from the damage done by TMP.

Anji · February 15 2013, 04:24 AM

Beg to take issue with you. The battle scenes between the Enterprise and the Reliant were the idea of Nick Meyer, director of the film. Paramount, or rather Harve Bennett, liked it. But there was no insistance from the studio on a battle scene at all.

CorporalClegg · February 15 2013, 04:52 AM

Anji wrote:

Beg to take issue with you. The battle scenes between the Enterprise and the Reliant were the idea of Nick Meyer, director of the film. Paramount, or rather Harve Bennett, liked it. But there was no insistance from the studio on a battle scene at all.

No. The style may have been Meyer's idea, but you're being naive if you think the studio didn't have an X-plosion preference.

The Wormhole · February 15 2013, 04:57 AM

Anji wrote:

Beg to take issue with you. The battle scenes between the Enterprise and the Reliant were the idea of Nick Meyer, director of the film. Paramount, or rather Harve Bennett, liked it. But there was no insistance from the studio on a battle scene at all.

When Harve Bennett was first approached by Paramount they asked him his opinion on TMP. He said he thought it was boring. They asked if he thought he could do better. When he said yes, they added "can you do it for less than forty fucking million dollars?" Bennett said he could do six movies with that much money and got the job.

A cheap action movie, that's what Paramount wanted and what they got.

JirinPanthosa · February 15 2013, 06:48 AM

Shatner's just mad that Abrams is winning at geek Monopoly. Shatner must have landed on his hotel.

teacake · February 15 2013, 08:40 AM

Shatner has nothing to worry about, he's a living legend. JJ can't say that and if he rolls out a few clunkers in a row he's screwed.

Edit_XYZ · February 15 2013, 04:27 PM

Brolan wrote:

My Name Is Legion wrote:

Brolan wrote:

like most jokes there is some kernel of truth...

Who told you that? 'Taint so and ain't the point.

Oh, I beg to differ my friend. The Shat is annoyed with JJ, no doubt in my mind.

CorporalClegg wrote:

No he's not.

Honestly, I doubt he ever wanted a part in any Abrams film. He's having too much fun hanging with the fans and making docs.

There is a big difference between a joke and an insult.
Shatner went way beyond the former into the territory of the latter.

That said, I'm not surprised his fans are trying to excuse his words; inevitably, the excuses are transparently feeble.

Carcazoid · February 15 2013, 04:33 PM

Yeah, you tell 'em. Who said Treknerds have no sense of humor, huh?

Oh, that was me.

CorporalClegg · February 15 2013, 06:04 PM

Edit_XYZ wrote:

Shatner went way beyond the former into the territory of the latter.

He really didn't.

teacake · February 15 2013, 11:24 PM

Shatner didn't say anything different than what was said in a dozen threads here when the news came out, also with humour.

Edit_XYZ · February 16 2013, 06:26 AM

teacake wrote:

Shatner didn't say anything different than what was said in a dozen threads here when the news came out, also with humour.

Ah, yes - those threads where outraged fans vented their anger at the news, only to be opposed by fans welcoming the news.
You can tell right away who is joking in those threads and who doesn't care one way or the other (they're a minority).

What Shatner said - about an acquaintance, not a close friend - is not a joke.
Regardless of how explicit or implicit you try to make this assumption in transparent attempts to excuse him.

February 14 2013, 10:29 PM	#46
Lance Captain Location: The Enterprise's Restroom	Re: William Shatner Calls J.J. Abrams "a Pig" for Hogging Both Star Tr Shatner's comments are obviously a joke on his part, and I imagine Abrams took them as such too. There's nothing to see here, people.

February 14 2013, 11:31 PM	#48
CorporalClegg Vice Admiral Location: Nuevo México	Re: William Shatner Calls J.J. Abrams "a Pig" for Hogging Both Star Tr No he's not. Honestly, I doubt he ever wanted a part in any Abrams film. He's having too much fun hanging with the fans and making docs. __________________ More matter, less hyperbole.

February 15 2013, 04:24 AM	#51
Anji Rear Admiral Location: Assisting in the birth of baby Horta on Janus VI	Re: William Shatner Calls J.J. Abrams "a Pig" for Hogging Both Star Tr Beg to take issue with you. The battle scenes between the Enterprise and the Reliant were the idea of Nick Meyer, director of the film. Paramount, or rather Harve Bennett, liked it. But there was no insistance from the studio on a battle scene at all. __________________ "You may be wrong, but you may be right." - Billy Joel

February 15 2013, 06:48 AM	#54
JirinPanthosa Fleet Captain	Re: William Shatner Calls J.J. Abrams "a Pig" for Hogging Both Star Tr Shatner's just mad that Abrams is winning at geek Monopoly. Shatner must have landed on his hotel.

February 15 2013, 08:40 AM	#55
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: William Shatner Calls J.J. Abrams "a Pig" for Hogging Both Star Tr Shatner has nothing to worry about, he's a living legend. JJ can't say that and if he rolls out a few clunkers in a row he's screwed. __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne

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February 15 2013, 04:33 PM	#57
Carcazoid Captain Location: Planet Carcazed	Re: William Shatner Calls J.J. Abrams "a Pig" for Hogging Both Star Tr Yeah, you tell 'em. Who said Treknerds have no sense of humor, huh? Oh, that was me. __________________ =Carcazoid=

February 15 2013, 11:24 PM	#59
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: William Shatner Calls J.J. Abrams "a Pig" for Hogging Both Star Tr Shatner didn't say anything different than what was said in a dozen threads here when the news came out, also with humour. __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne