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Old February 14 2013, 03:27 PM   #5836
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Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

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So if he wanted to torture and kill the Bat Family, why didn't he reveal THEIR secret identities to the world?
Why would he want to? It's between him and Bats, not the world.
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Old February 14 2013, 04:39 PM   #5837
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So if he wanted to torture and kill the Bat Family, why didn't he reveal THEIR secret identities to the world?
Why would he want to? It's between him and Bats, not the world.
Exactly. And what would Joker gain by revealing anyone's identities?
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Old February 14 2013, 06:27 PM   #5838
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Also, I think it's pretty clear that Joker didn't want to kill the Bat family...this latest scheme was a "love letter" to Batman regarding their relationship, as Snyder himself put it a few months back. A message. He is always attempting to find new ways of unhinging Bruce...this was just the latest. Bruce also turned his game right back at him with the threat of revealing Joker's identity to him as well. It's all psychological ploys with Joker, that yes on occasion sometimes get taken over the edge, but I don't think that was the intended case this time.
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Old February 14 2013, 07:33 PM   #5839
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I thought the ending was a little bit of a letdown. I really enjoyed the arc, and loved the take on the Joker, but felt it was all too neatly wrapped up. Something more significant should have happened but all we got was that, maybe, the Bat family doesn't trust Bruce as much. That's not new. While that might have long term effects, it's not really shown in the book.

Don't get me wrong, there were parts of it that I liked. It was an emotional issue at times but I think there ended up being one too many cop outs.

In regards to Joker knowing secret identities, I took it that he doesn't know who any of them really are and doesn't much care. He pieced some things together to fuck with them but more than that he can't be bothered.
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Old February 14 2013, 07:39 PM   #5840
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I have a few theories for the identity of Earth 2's new Batman:

1) It's Terry Sloan with some new scheme up his sleeve.

2) The suit is actually heavily padded and this is where they finally decided to stick Stephanie Brown.

3) In this world where Bruce and Selina did really get together, and there now is no Batman, who else would pick up the mantle but the kid from 3rd Rock From the Sun? John Blake is the new Batman.

If any of these end up happening I have officially called it here.
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Old February 14 2013, 07:48 PM   #5841
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I have a few theories for the identity of Earth 2's new Batman:

1) It's Terry Sloan with some new scheme up his sleeve.

2) The suit is actually heavily padded and this is where they finally decided to stick Stephanie Brown.

3) In this world where Bruce and Selina did really get together, and there now is no Batman, who else would pick up the mantle but the kid from 3rd Rock From the Sun? John Blake is the new Batman.
He should really use his given name, I like it!
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Old February 14 2013, 08:00 PM   #5842
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I don't think anything was supposed to happen, like I said this was all psychological, even extending towards us the reader...we're really the ones who kept speculating that something was going to or could happen. It's not new that Bruce hasn't always been trustworthy or kept secrets, but that was just another thing that Joker was attempting to exploit I felt. I agree about that, but I felt like Snyder has upped the ante between Bruce and Joker even more. The whole thing was almost like a big joke, and that is what Joker excels at. Not sure if I'm making sense. I did have that feeling of underwhelming...so I get what people are saying there, but I dunno...I guess I just didn't have that much of a problem with that.

I wonder how long it will be now before we see Joker again. I feel like he's going to go into hiatus again...and I'm okay. It builds our anticipation for his return.
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Old February 14 2013, 08:12 PM   #5843
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I might change my mind as I'll be rereading it soon but as is, I get what Snyder was going for but it didn't have the impact he seemed to think it would. Granted, he's doing a better job of showing the Bat family breaking apart than it's been done in the past but it still feels like he's covering old ground.

On the other hand, I didn't care for the end of RIP when I read it but now I adore it so who knows?
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Old February 14 2013, 08:14 PM   #5844
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Rumoured Green Lantern title writers...House of UIster already mentioned Fiakvov...

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/02/...lantern-books/
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Old February 14 2013, 09:48 PM   #5845
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Interesting, but solid choices. Think they should swap Giffen and Venditti though. At least Nocetti or Lodbell or DeFalco didn't get the job. Whoever said Nocetti was the worst writer ever is totally on the mark.
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Old February 14 2013, 10:11 PM   #5846
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Watch the Green Lantern books drop like stones.
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Old February 15 2013, 12:20 AM   #5847
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I've never even heard of the first three, and Giffein I feel utterly neutral on. I see myself cutting NG and GLC very very soon...
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Old February 15 2013, 02:58 AM   #5848
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BTW, for you Bat-fans out there, Kevin Smith has been interviewing comic book writers like Scott Snyder (Batman), Kyle Higgins (Nightwing), and Grant Morrison (Batman Inc) on his webcast, and they're extremely entertaining and informative! This entire series is devoted to Batman, mainly the comic book and 90s animated series variety. He's also done commentary tracks for classic episodes with the creators and of the new Dark Knight Returns movies. I love these things!

http://smodcast.com/channels/fatman-on-batman/
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Old February 15 2013, 08:38 AM   #5849
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Fiakvov has been writing the new Masters of the Universe "origins" one shots which in my opinion aren't very good. He's also the writer of I, Vampire. I think he's known for writing "horror" type stories.
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Old February 15 2013, 01:09 PM   #5850
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I wonder if there's endless confusion, particularly for the few surviving comic book stores, over the similar named titles like "Fantastic Four" and "FF" and now "Justice League" and "Justice League of America"...
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