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Old February 13 2013, 11:05 PM   #31
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Oh shut up. Just shut up. here aren't many useable clips of the old BSG battles online. Plus, we're talking about an aesthetic opinion.

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There aren't that many useable clips because the original BSG didn't have that any many effects shots period. Pretty much ever battle was recycled footage from the pilot/original movie.

They really put the stock in stock footage.
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Old February 14 2013, 01:05 AM   #32
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The decision to film documentary style was what visually set the show apart for previous SciFi series IMO.
I agree... I instantly noticed this tactic, the "zooming in and out before focusing on the subject". I thought it added a bit of realism to the obviously CGI shots. Part of what made nuBSG work for me.
Usually not a fan of the style, but I liked it in BSG. Had the feel of it being gun-camera or drone-camera footage shot in the thick of it. Really worked with the feel they were going for with the series.
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The new BSG was probably one of the best science fiction shows ever made and one of the few where people actually acted like people. Most of the people who have problems with it are mainly upset because it is such a different show and they can't accept that.

I really don't know how anyone could think the original is superior in anyway other than by being a fan of goofy kid characters, robot dogs played by chimps and episode after episode of 70s movie ripoffs.
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Old February 15 2013, 05:59 AM   #34
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The new BSG was probably one of the best science fiction shows ever made and one of the few where people actually acted like people. Most of the people who have problems with it are mainly upset because it is such a different show and they can't accept that.

I really don't know how anyone could think the original is superior in anyway other than by being a fan of goofy kid characters, robot dogs played by chimps and episode after episode of 70s movie ripoffs.
Speaking for myself only, I prefer the original because the characters didn't wallow in emotions all the time. Sure, they had been through the destruction of their society, but, they picked themselves up and got on with the business of living like real people would do.

New Galactica on the other hand, had the characters wallowing in emotions over stuff that happened BEFORE the destruction of the colonies, and never seemed to put anything behind them. That's not "realism", as the producers would have you believe. It's overly emotional nonsense.

That's what turned me off.
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Old February 15 2013, 06:14 AM   #35
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NuBSG was a little too dark for my tastes, but there is no doubt it was well made in all respects.
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Old February 15 2013, 07:13 AM   #36
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[/I]New Galactica on the other hand, had the characters wallowing in emotions over stuff that happened BEFORE the destruction of the colonies, and never seemed to put anything behind them. That's not "realism", as the producers would have you believe. It's overly emotional nonsense.

That's what turned me off.
Part of that is the timeline though, isn't it? The events on screen played out much slower than real life. The Mini series aired in 2003, and the Lay Down Your Burdens aired in 2006 even though it took place just 9 months after the destruction of the 12 colonies.

I know I'd be pretty messed up 9 months after a similar tragedy.
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Old February 15 2013, 06:53 PM   #37
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Speaking for myself only, I prefer the original because the characters didn't wallow in emotions all the time. Sure, they had been through the destruction of their society, but, they picked themselves up and got on with the business of living [I]like real people would do.
There are some real people from New York City and Northern New Jersey that I believe may have a different perspective on how long it takes to get over a horrific attack. In addition, after 911, the terrorists were not continuing to attack the city, as the Cyclons in that fictional Universe continued to chase and attack the fleet. And the rest of humanity outside of NYC had not been wiped out!

There were no Mudd's Women or Tribbles episodes, but this was a different type of show.

I think it is pretty much accepted that the dark tone of nBSG was influenced by the events of 911. The series might not have even connected well with so many if it had been produced before the attacks. Given the premise and the length o f time covered by the story, I think things would actually be pretty dark. Also, the trend to add on-going soap opera story lines into 'primetime' dramas hadn't become a trend yet back in the 1970s, although I would say the original was more of a family show, and nBSG was geared more toward adults and away from kids.

This is opposed to the tone of the original series in which we find in the episode immediately following the destruction of the Colonies Starbuck and the gang partying down and having fun on a casino planet (well, at least until they start getting eaten....!).

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Old February 16 2013, 08:36 AM   #38
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This is opposed to the tone of the original series in which we find in the episode immediately following the destruction of the Colonies Starbuck and the gang partying down and having fun on a casino planet (well, at least until they start getting eaten....!).
Yeah.... that's why I could never get into the original. I watched that casino planet episode and decided to give up. I'm too young to have a "nostalgia" factor with that show.

But then again, ST:TOS bores me, too. I enjoy the movies with the original cast, but some of the TOS episodes just drone on and on and on...
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^ Yes, nostalgia plays a big factor, I think, with all of us. When we watch a show today that we grew up with (and liked!), I think the experience ties into more than just that episode.... we reconnect on a subconscious level with other elements and feelings about that part of our life. That is why a grilled cheeses sandwich and a bowl of soup (I know this is cliche) tastes so much better to me than it probably should.

I enjoy a ST:TOS episode, even when it is kind of corny because is resonates with good stuff from my past, yet I can see why it may not do the same for you. Similarly, I started watching Dr. Who with reruns of Tom Baker when I was younger. While I am fond of that character (and appreciate pretty much all the incarnations of the Doctor), I can see where someone who was introduced to Doctor Who in the new era might find the pacing and special effects of older series as engaging as with 9, 10 & 11.
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The new BSG was probably one of the best science fiction shows ever made and one of the few where people actually acted like people. Most of the people who have problems with it are mainly upset because it is such a different show and they can't accept that.

I really don't know how anyone could think the original is superior in anyway other than by being a fan of goofy kid characters, robot dogs played by chimps and episode after episode of 70s movie ripoffs.
Speaking for myself only, I prefer the original because the characters didn't wallow in emotions all the time. Sure, they had been through the destruction of their society, but, they picked themselves up and got on with the business of living like real people would do.

New Galactica on the other hand, had the characters wallowing in emotions over stuff that happened BEFORE the destruction of the colonies, and never seemed to put anything behind them. That's not "realism", as the producers would have you believe. It's overly emotional nonsense.

That's what turned me off.

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Old February 18 2013, 12:47 AM   #41
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Sure, they had been through the destruction of their society, but, they picked themselves up and got on with the business of living like real people would do.
In nuBSG, the fleet made it to Earth with many survivors. Everyone who was physically and emotionally able to survive did survive, though many gave their lives heroically, so I'm not seeing your point here.

Perhaps you mean that it was unrealistic that some of them had committed suicide? If so, I'll be sure to let the families of real-world suicide victims know that their loved ones didn't really kill themselves.
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The new BSG was probably one of the best science fiction shows ever made and one of the few where people actually acted like people. Most of the people who have problems with it are mainly upset because it is such a different show and they can't accept that.

I really don't know how anyone could think the original is superior in anyway other than by being a fan of goofy kid characters, robot dogs played by chimps and episode after episode of 70s movie ripoffs.
Speaking for myself only, I prefer the original because the characters didn't wallow in emotions all the time. Sure, they had been through the destruction of their society, but, they picked themselves up and got on with the business of living like real people would do.

New Galactica on the other hand, had the characters wallowing in emotions over stuff that happened BEFORE the destruction of the colonies, and never seemed to put anything behind them. That's not "realism", as the producers would have you believe. It's overly emotional nonsense.

That's what turned me off.
It's kind of hard to pick yourself up when your entire civilization has been wiped from the universe and the group that did it is constantly chasing you. It isn't like a cat dying or someone stealing your car. Now maybe the people you know are down for anything and are able to go to a strip club after leaving a funeral, but most people need a little time to deal with it and that's just with the normal grief that most of us encounter. I find the way people behaved on new BSG to be fairly believable, if anything there should have been a little more suicide in the early days after the initial attack. Because if all my family was dead and a bunch of robots were hunting me down,attacking every 33 minutes and I hadn't been able to rest for 5 days, I'd consider it and I don't consider myself to be depressed.
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