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Old February 9 2013, 05:51 PM   #151
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Re: "Best of both Worlds" - Special Bluray Release

I wonder if any stores will run a promotion giving you a deal if you buy both the season 3 set and the BOBW disc.
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Old February 9 2013, 07:15 PM   #152
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The difference in the quality of the borg cube in BOBW compared to Season 2's Q-who is staggering. In Q-Who it looks like a low resolution matte painting. In BOBW its so clear and sharp that I can see ALL the little elements...
Makes me sad that we'll probably never get to see Q Who? look that good.
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Old February 9 2013, 11:23 PM   #153
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The difference in the quality of the borg cube in BOBW compared to Season 2's Q-who is staggering. In Q-Who it looks like a low resolution matte painting. In BOBW its so clear and sharp that I can see ALL the little elements...
Makes me sad that we'll probably never get to see Q Who? look that good.
It wasn't like the original cube looked anything special in Q Who. The visual effects people obviously stepped up their game big time when it came time to do BOBW.
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Old February 10 2013, 12:42 AM   #154
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The difference in the quality of the borg cube in BOBW compared to Season 2's Q-who is staggering. In Q-Who it looks like a low resolution matte painting. In BOBW its so clear and sharp that I can see ALL the little elements...
Makes me sad that we'll probably never get to see Q Who? look that good.
It wasn't like the original cube looked anything special in Q Who. The visual effects people obviously stepped up their game big time when it came time to do BOBW.
That because two different teams worked on those two episodes. Dan Curry did Q-Who. ANd Dan's work is always overlite, and isn't as sharply focused. Never has been. Rob Legato was lead on Best of Both Worlds I & 2. Also didn't hurt that as time progressed both producers learned how to better managed the facilities they had, and replacing the 6footer allowed far more time to be fred up for other shots.
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Old February 10 2013, 12:50 AM   #155
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That because two different teams worked on those two episodes. Dan Curry did Q-Who. ANd Dan's work is always overlite, and isn't as sharply focused. Never has been. Rob Legato was lead on Best of Both Worlds I & 2. Also didn't hurt that as time progressed both producers learned how to better managed the facilities they had, and replacing the 6footer allowed far more time to be fred up for other shots.
Also Paramount was willing to give them a bigger budget because BOBW was the first two parter on the show so far.

Didn't Q who mainly use the 2footer?
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Old February 10 2013, 01:16 AM   #156
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Does anyone have any info on the BOBW mid-episode edit on the telemovie disc? This really is the deal clincher for me - a slapdash, awkward transition between parts I/II equals no sale.
In the press release it's described as, "seamlessly edited" which might imply that there's no cut to black as in my example, which I finally uploaded to YouTube if there's someone who hasn't seen it yet:




It may (and I stress, may) be similar to what you see in the trailer here at 1:50 (without the out of sequence cuts to Worf and Troi):

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Old February 10 2013, 03:07 AM   #157
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Does anyone have any info on the BOBW mid-episode edit on the telemovie disc? This really is the deal clincher for me - a slapdash, awkward transition between parts I/II equals no sale.
In the press release it's described as, "seamlessly edited" which might imply that there's no cut to black as in my example, which I finally uploaded to YouTube if there's someone who hasn't seen it yet:




It may (and I stress, may) be similar to what you see in the trailer here at 1:50 (without the out of sequence cuts to Worf and Troi):

Maxwell, many thanks for those links. I've bitten the bullet and placed my order in addition to the season three box. Since the standalone disc is only £10 odd, I guess it won't be the proverbial end of the world if I don't like the edit.
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Old February 10 2013, 11:04 AM   #158
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TBOBW has been available as a single episode on DVD for ages, I guess the two episodes will be edited together for the BD in the same way.
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Old February 10 2013, 11:59 AM   #159
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Amazing trailer! I haven't grinned as eagerly about a TNG BD since the season one trailer was released!

Wait a minute. A tear rolls down Picard's face as he's being assimilated?? I must have seen BOBW ten times and have never noticed that before! I am obviously the kind of person for whom this new HD transfer is intended!
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Old February 10 2013, 12:07 PM   #160
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Wait a minute. A tear rolls down Picard's face as he's being assimilated??
A composited one, yeah. And it seems to look a bit better now.
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Old February 10 2013, 12:23 PM   #161
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Wait a minute. A tear rolls down Picard's face as he's being assimilated??
A composited one, yeah. And it seems to look a bit better now.
It does! I've just checked the SD version and the tear is so subtle, I wouldn't know it was there unless I already knew.
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Old February 10 2013, 12:59 PM   #162
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TBOBW has been available as a single episode on DVD for ages, I guess the two episodes will be edited together for the BD in the same way.
From what I've read, there's a new edit on the BD - which I'm really hoping is an improvement on the somewhat jarring version currently available.
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Old February 10 2013, 01:40 PM   #163
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The first time I saw Best of Both Worlds was the feature length VHS release and I thought it was edited together quite well, going straight from Riker saying 'Fire' to the shot of the deflector dish firing, the music blended quite well too.

If they are using the same edit then it would explain why the commentary can't be cut up over the season sets as there is a good 7-8 seconds missing from the feature length version.

Oh and for those in the UK the BoBW disc is only £6.99 at Sainsburys

I wonder if they will include a discount voucher in with BoBW for TNG S3 or S4 like they did with the sampler which had a voucher for £5 off TNG S1
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Old February 11 2013, 04:51 AM   #164
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I think they could do this with Unification as well. I am certain there are alot of people who would want Spock's appearance who would not want the full season.
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Old February 11 2013, 02:31 PM   #165
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I think they could do this with Unification as well. I am certain there are alot of people who would want Spock's appearance who would not want the full season.
Perhaps, but "Best of Both Worlds" makes a much easier sell as a standalone "ooh, I'm pretty in HD" title.
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