So many horrible characters aboard the Voyager

[Tosk]

Udat wrote:

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All Trek has annoying characters, need I mention Jake Sisko, Wesley Crusher etc etc.

What was wrong with Jake? I found him to be everything that Wesley was not...is it just because he was the kid on the show?

[DeepSpaceWine]

What is it with people appearing to proclaim their hatred of Voyager in great detail year after year? Is there some kind of Voyager Hate Club I don't know about? Does one get bonus points for how creative they get with their hate and how much they write about how much they hate Voyager (like frequent flyer miles)? What kind of parties do they throw? What kind of get togethers? Where is the Voyager Hate Convention held? Do they get Garrett Wang to appear so they can throw rotten produce at him? Do they get Robert Beltran to appear where they can simultaneously scold him for acting out such a boring character & cheer him for his dislike of the writers/producers? Do they burn effigies of the Transwarp Salamander from "Threshold"? How many card carrying members of the Voyager Hate Club are here at this site?

Sheesh. And here I thought with time, the hate might ebb.

[Captain Picard.]

I am not really a huge fan of Voyager myself mainly due to some of the characters but the story lines are good. But I am not a Voyager hater

[lurok]

DeepSpaceWine wrote:

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Sheesh. And here I thought with time, the hate might ebb.

Nah. Haters gonna hate. Boredom. Ennui. Lack of imagination. Any of above. I could go piss in the TNG forum every day but it's hardly worth the effort.

[teacake]

Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering..

See, it's because they fear Voyager. FEAR. It has led to the hate. They saw her, all full of contradictions and ludicrous moments and comic relief and color, so very much color.. and they freaked out because no one was telling them what to do. Where was all the pious pontificating of TNG? Where was the gloriously grey (brief) ethical moments of DS9? Where was the solemnity befitting the exploration of space?!

They saw A Briefing with Neelix and they shat themselves. We are supposed to be having SPACE and HUMANITY and STRIVING FOR BETTERMENT fuck yeah and what the hell is all this?!

SPACE IS SERIOUS KTHX.

You know what I think we should have seen on Neelix..one of those propellor hats. Those little yarmulke shaped thingies in four corners of color with a propeller on top. They really missed the boat by not doing that at least once on the holodeck.

[Captain Picard.]

But Q was at his best in Voyager Janeway and Q! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tU3TL9sShs

[teacake]

I dunno.. I always wanted him and Picard to get it on.

[Galekarens]

I recently watched (actually rewatched since I did watch DS9 pretty religiously its first few years, but it's been so long that I barely remembered it) an episode of DS9 because I wanted to see Admiral Nechayev, and while doing that remembered how I thought then some of the characters were annoying (like Quark, Bashir and later Weyoun, and maybe others, too). But I realize that is my opinion and posting that on a DS9 board might be construed by those fans as kind of ....annoying. But to each his/her own, I suppose.

[Relayer1]

Hespen wrote:

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I liked the original star trek from way back in the day, I enjoyed the older movies, TNG and deep space nine. But Voyager is the first star trek series with so many uninteresting characters.

Neelix
Extremely annoying

Commander Chipotle
Annoying, serves no purpose in the show. Constantly gives janeway bad advice. Native American angle is extremely boring. They should just replace his face with a freshly made chipotle and just play some mexican music in the background, maybe a drum with a buffalo running in the background. That would be far more interesting lol.

Tom Paris
Serves no purpose, annoying. If he wasn't on the show there would be no difference in anything.

Torres
All she does is complain, it's annoying as hell.

Harry Kim
Serves no purpose, annoying, the most boring character in all of star trek.

I think if they removed the above five characters the show would be a lot better.

Janeway, Tuvok, seven and the Doctor are very interesting characters. Kes was becoming interesting as well but then they removed her.

I'm just shocked at how badly they dropped the ball with this series.

Strangely, the two characters I absolutely could NOT stand were Janeway and Tuvok.

It's all a matter of opinion...

[teacake]

Well I gotta ask.. what in the world did you not like about Tuvok?

[Captain Picard.]

I wish Sigourney Weaver was the captain instead of Kate Mulgrew I always wish she played her part.

[Captain Picard.]

teacake wrote:

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Well I gotta ask.. what in the world did you not like about Tuvok?

Tuvok never smiles (I know he is a Vulcan but com'on) and he does not have something special about him really they just tried to recreate Spock in Voyager and failed.

[teacake]

Bloody hell.. Tuvok never smiles?! Now I've heard everything.

They certainly did not try and recreate Spock with Tuvok. The Spock character on VOY was 7 of 9. Data was the Spock character on TNG. All three were part of the big Trek saga of finding your humanity. Tuvok? He was just a Vulcan, and quite content as such.

[Captain Picard.]

I just don't find his character original and what I have seen of him is bad. They could of come up with something better than that.

[Carcazoid]

Captain Picard. wrote:

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I wish Sigourney Weaver was the captain instead of Kate Mulgrew I always wish she played her part.

SW's voice is not nearly annoying enough to be Janeway.

Besides, if she'd done VOY we wouldn't have had her in Galaxy Quest.



I can't see Janeway pulling this off.