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Old February 8 2013, 09:51 PM   #1
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So many horrible characters aboard the Voyager

I liked the original star trek from way back in the day, I enjoyed the older movies, TNG and deep space nine. But Voyager is the first star trek series with so many uninteresting characters.

Neelix
Extremely annoying

Commander Chipotle
Annoying, serves no purpose in the show. Constantly gives janeway bad advice. Native American angle is extremely boring. They should just replace his face with a freshly made chipotle and just play some mexican music in the background, maybe a drum with a buffalo running in the background. That would be far more interesting lol.

Tom Paris
Serves no purpose, annoying. If he wasn't on the show there would be no difference in anything.

Torres
All she does is complain, it's annoying as hell.

Harry Kim
Serves no purpose, annoying, the most boring character in all of star trek.

I think if they removed the above five characters the show would be a lot better.

Janeway, Tuvok, seven and the Doctor are very interesting characters. Kes was becoming interesting as well but then they removed her.

I'm just shocked at how badly they dropped the ball with this series.
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Old February 8 2013, 10:17 PM   #2
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Re: So many horrible characters aboard the Voyager

I find Kim the worst, nothing special about him just another star fleet officer in my view he does not deserve to be there.
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Old February 8 2013, 10:22 PM   #3
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Re: So many horrible characters aboard the Voyager

Commander Chipotle? That's a new one.

He might have been a much more interesting character just chowing down burritos on the bridge.

I don't agree with the original post, specifically Torres and Paris, but Commander Chipotle made me grin.
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Old February 9 2013, 12:05 AM   #4
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Re: So many horrible characters aboard the Voyager

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Commander Chipotle...

Harry Kim
Serves no purpose, annoying, the most boring character in all of star trek....
"Chipotle"

That's original enough to suggest that you might possibly have an answer for a recurrent mystery in Voyager commentary.

How can the half-dozen Harry Kim episodes be such a problem? Cutting them out of the show wouldn't make it noticeably leaner or faster paced.

How could a token character who spent little time on center screen possibly be so boring? Unless the viewer has a remarkably short attention span, an interesting character is almost certainly going to appear by first commercial break, if not sooner.

If the Harry Kim character is such a nothing, how come he can't be ignored? The same question applies to Garret Wang for those who think they see some apocalyptically bad acting.
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Old February 9 2013, 12:09 AM   #5
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Re: So many horrible characters aboard the Voyager

I like the characters. The characters were not the problem with Voyager. The problem was the writing.

The thing about Chakotay is, if the laws of probability worked the same way for Voyager as they do in real life, he would be giving very good advice.

I liked Chakotay when they put him in strictly 'tactical decision' mode like in Shattered and Displaced, but the problem is they rarely ever did that. Neelix, yeah he's annoying but he played a crucial role in the show to maintain its tone.
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Old February 9 2013, 12:13 AM   #6
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It's a pretty weak group of characters. Pretty telling that the only ones who became worth a damn were a hologram and someone who didn't even join the show until halfway through its run.
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Old February 9 2013, 03:05 AM   #7
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Re: So many horrible characters aboard the Voyager

I think they had a great group of actors, but yes they were not as well written as they could have been. They were underdeveloped, and I think the reset button at the end of each episode was one of the biggest reasons for this. If everything turns back to the beginning and there are no consequences, how can we expect the characters to grow?

That said, I did enjoy Tuvok, 7 of 9, and the Doctor, of which the latter two were the most well written and sufficiently developed on the show.
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Old February 9 2013, 06:11 AM   #8
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Re: So many horrible characters aboard the Voyager

Chakotay and Kim suffer from having actors who really had no interest in their roles to begin with. Get rid of Beltran and Wang to start with, and then Chak and Kim have a chance.

As for "Development"...how much development did Kirk, Spock and McCoy undergo in the original series? How much did they grow? No one complains about that.
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Old February 9 2013, 07:41 AM   #9
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Re: So many horrible characters aboard the Voyager

All Trek has annoying characters, need I mention Jake Sisko, Wesley Crusher etc etc. Whilist Chakotay and Harry were bad I could alway tolerate them, Paris and Belanna were cool. But thats just me.
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Old February 9 2013, 08:03 AM   #10
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Udat wrote: View Post
All Trek has annoying characters, need I mention Jake Sisko, Wesley Crusher etc etc. Whilist Chakotay and Harry were bad I could alway tolerate them, Paris and Belanna were cool. But thats just me.
You didn't like Jake? I thought he was criminally underused, and Loften played him well.
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Old February 9 2013, 09:34 AM   #11
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Re: So many horrible characters aboard the Voyager

Enough! Enough with all this awful VOY bashing!!

So many mean posts, and here it is almost Valentines day!!

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Old February 9 2013, 09:37 AM   #12
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Udat wrote: View Post
All Trek has annoying characters, need I mention Jake Sisko, Wesley Crusher etc etc. Whilist Chakotay and Harry were bad I could alway tolerate them, Paris and Belanna were cool. But thats just me.
Why don't you like Wesley?
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Old February 9 2013, 09:39 AM   #13
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Yeah, Wesley has that cool sweater.
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Old February 9 2013, 10:09 AM   #14
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Re: So many horrible characters aboard the Voyager

And there was that time he saved everybody by doing that thing he did.
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Old February 9 2013, 10:15 AM   #15
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That THING......
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