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Old February 5 2013, 10:36 PM   #91
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Pound coins. With William Shatner's face on them. King Shat XVII
That would be an interesting way to finally get him a cameo
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Old February 5 2013, 10:40 PM   #92
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That would be an interesting way to finally get him a cameo
I was hoping they still had commercials in the 22nd century on programming and he could appear as the Priceline guy.
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Old February 5 2013, 10:42 PM   #93
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Texas would be the last to join any "world government.'
Depends on what happened to the US in Trek's WW III.
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Old February 5 2013, 11:02 PM   #94
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That would be an interesting way to finally get him a cameo
I was hoping they still had commercials in the 22nd century on programming and he could appear as the Priceline guy.
The Price Line guy was killed going off a bridge? Are there new Priceline Commercials?
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Old February 5 2013, 11:18 PM   #95
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That would be an interesting way to finally get him a cameo
I was hoping they still had commercials in the 22nd century on programming and he could appear as the Priceline guy.
The Price Line guy was killed going off a bridge? Are there new Priceline Commercials?
Yup.
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Old February 5 2013, 11:28 PM   #96
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Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

I always figured the existing world governments still exist in Star Trek, they just operate on a level more like States. The UFP essentially is a bit like the EU parliament: all the countries in the union have got representatives there, but that doesn't mean they don't also have their own self governing powers as well. The UK is still the UK, the USA is still the USA, and so on. It's just that the boundries have changed.

Alternatively: it's an altered universe in the new movies. No reason to assume that the old school boundries haven't reasserted themselves following Nero's intervention.
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Old February 5 2013, 11:37 PM   #97
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I want a cameo by Kenneth Parcell.
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Old February 5 2013, 11:55 PM   #98
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Maybe I am reading these posts wrong, but I think some people are confusing one thing for another.

United Earth - the uniglobal government of Earth, finalized 2150
United Federation of Planets - a major galactic power of the Alpha Quadrant

Though the flags are interesting, I am more interested in what is in the sky. Is that a 23rd century air ship above the building?
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Old February 6 2013, 12:04 AM   #99
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Why wouldn't Britain still exist? The land is still there and people live there. Once the Federation comes into being, it isn't like they renamed everything. The United States isn't Land Zone Gamma, it's the United States. Kirk says that he's from Iowa, showing that the individual states still exist and McCoy talked about Georgia a few times. If they still exist in some form, then other countries would as well. The Earth government probably has standard laws for the whole planet, but the individual countries probably work similarly to the EU or how the states in United States work. Basically each runs itself in a limited fashion with certain aspects left to the Earth government. They probably keep the flags as a symbolic or historic thing.
And Chekov was a proud Russian. Scotty was, well, Scottish. And Kirk recited a mean "We, the People" . . . .
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I always found it odder that nearly every single other planet was one government, one society and even one dress code.
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Old February 6 2013, 12:23 AM   #101
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I always found it odder that nearly every single other planet was one government, one society and even one dress code.
And often, it seemed, one time zone!

Dialogue never heard on any STAR TREK show:

"Open hailing frequencies to the Zorganian High Ruler!"

"Er, Captain, it's four in the morning in their capital city."

"Oh. Well, hail him in about five hours then."

"Er, I'll be off my shift then. That will seven pm, ship-time."
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Old February 6 2013, 04:02 AM   #102
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That would be an interesting way to finally get him a cameo
I was hoping they still had commercials in the 22nd century on programming and he could appear as the Priceline guy.
Abrams ST takes place in the 23rd century.
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Old February 6 2013, 04:26 AM   #103
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I always found it odder that nearly every single other planet was one government, one society and even one dress code.
And often, it seemed, one time zone!

Dialogue never heard on any STAR TREK show:

"Open hailing frequencies to the Zorganian High Ruler!"

"Er, Captain, it's four in the morning in their capital city."

"Oh. Well, hail him in about five hours then."

"Er, I'll be off my shift then. That will seven pm, ship-time."
Oh that happened a few times on Enterprise. But then again, it's not really a STAR TREK show. So...

I think something in "Vox Sola" or "A Night in Sickbay" with the Kreetassans. Travis Mayweather would be the only one around, still on shift to take the call from a planet or ship they'd just left... operating on a different time of day. A little too hung up on mundane details really. Any other show would just have alien worlds be a bit more convienent. It speeds up the drama and doesn't bore the audience to death with crew chat between the next important scene.

It's the exceptionally difficult alien race, who demand the ship reset their clocks to their time and show respect about practically everything from which direction to pass the drinks in, to not allowing your dog to pee against their trees. Naturally being humans (read: Americans), the universe (read: rest of the world) revolves around us and our time zone.
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Old February 6 2013, 04:38 AM   #104
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^ I stand corrected.
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Old February 6 2013, 06:13 AM   #105
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In the scene after Zefram's ship goes to warp, when the ship is being turned around to return home, Cochran remarks "Is that the Earth? It's so... small" He wouldn't have been able to see it, provided the distance the ship just flew. Warp 1 is the speed of light and in a 1 minute flight, the Phoenix would have travelled over 10 million miles - at that distance the earth would just appear like a bright star.
When the Phoenix turns, the Earth appear to be about a third of a degree across. Four and a third million miles, or 23 light seconds. I figure that in the 55 second of screen time the Phoenix didn't just go straight out and then stop, but was traveling in a curve.

Either than, or some of the scenes with the interior of the Phoenix, and the interior of the Enterprise were occurring concurrently within the movie's timeline. The Phoenix simply wasn't at warp for a near minute, but only a couple of dozen seconds.

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