30 Rock: Final Season (Discussion, spoilers, etc.)

[JoeZhang]

What an odd sexually repressed argument you all seem to be having - the character seems to be wearing perfectly normal clothes in the link provided above.

I know you Americans have issues when it comes to women but really you'd think she was being spit-roasted live on screen every week.

[FFunctionalData]

that cleavage comment had to be a troll.

[A beaker full of death]

the G-man wrote:

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Actually BfoD is (partially) correct. While Liz was supposed to be boyish, Fey herself displayed a fair amount of (very fine IMO) cleavage in a number of episodes, often with Liz wearing a moderately low cut shirt under her blazer.

Thank you. This is the sort of wardrobe I was referring to.

boobatuba wrote:

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Where's his evidence? As noted, she's received multiple awards and countless accolades for her work. It doesn't seem like she needs to rely on her physical attributes at all.

That's why I find such a comment sexist.

The evidence is linked above. However, I was overly flippant in saying her cleavage only got her so far. I did not mean it was the reason for her success. Rather, it was calculatedly eye-catching, especially in contrast with the persona she otherwise tried to project, and frankly, it was responsible for my watching that show a few times more than I might have otherwise.
So think me sexist if you must. I am quite satisfied that I am not.

FFunctionalData wrote:

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that cleavage comment had to be a troll.

I'm sorry, who the fuck are you and when did you get here?

[boobatuba]

A beaker full of death wrote:

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The evidence is linked above. However, I was overly flippant in saying her cleavage only got her so far. I did not mean it was the reason for her success. Rather, it was calculatedly eye-catching, especially in contrast with the persona she otherwise tried to project, and frankly, it was responsible for my watching that show a few times more than I might have otherwise.
So think me sexist if you must. I am quite satisfied that I am not.

I didn't say that you're sexist. I said that your statement was. Big difference.

[FFunctionalData]

A beaker full of death wrote:

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I'm sorry, who the fuck are you and when did you get here?

my name and join date are on display in my profile so all your questions are answered. By your response you seem very upset but to me your cleavage comment made no sense so either it was joke or you are easily aroused. either way

[Nerys Myk]

A beaker full of death wrote:

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The evidence is linked above. However, I was overly flippant in saying her cleavage only got her so far. I did not mean it was the reason for her success. Rather, it was calculatedly eye-catching, especially in contrast with the persona she otherwise tried to project, and frankly, it was responsible for my watching that show a few times more than I might have otherwise.
So think me sexist if you must. I am quite satisfied that I am not.

Sorry, but you can see that much cleavage on any number of women in numerous social environments any day of the week. It's hardly "calculating".

[J. Allen]

Nerys Myk wrote:

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Sorry, but you can see that much cleavage on any number of women in numerous social environments any day of the week. It's hardly "calculating".

She tasks him. She tasks him and he shall have her. He'll chase her round the Moons of Nibia, and round the Antares Maelstrom, and round Perdition's flames before he gives her up! Prepare to alter blouse!

[A beaker full of death]

Nerys Myk wrote:

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Sorry, but you can see that much cleavage on any number of women in numerous social environments any day of the week. It's hardly "calculating".

The workplace is not a social environment. That amount of cleavage is inappropriate in most work environments (assuming one is not the main attraction at the Superbowl halftime show). My firm has sent young associates home to change for showing less.
And yes, it is entirely calculated. No one accidentally shows off their solar plexus in the office.

[Beagleman]

A beaker full of death wrote:

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The workplace is not a social environment. That amount of cleavage is inappropriate in most work environments (assuming one is not the main attraction at the Superbowl halftime show). My firm has sent young associates home to change for showing less.
And yes, it is entirely calculated. No one accidentally shows off their solar plexus in the office.

Is your firm located in Saudi Arabia or the Vatican by any chance?

[Nerys Myk]

A beaker full of death wrote:

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The workplace is not a social environment. That amount of cleavage is inappropriate in most work environments (assuming one is not the main attraction at the Superbowl halftime show). My firm has sent young associates home to change for showing less.
And yes, it is entirely calculated. No one accidentally shows off their solar plexus in the office.

Of course the work place is a social environment. Any place that people gather is one. You're a lawyer, not a comedy writer. I imagine the dress code is different in a writers room or TV studio. So what are your thoughts on Jenna or Ceries clothing? Liz comes across as a woman who's unaware that she might be showing more than she knows.

How is it calculated? Remember we're looking at Liz Lemon not Tina Fey. Solar Plexus???? I think the neck line would have to plunge a bit lower for that. Liz comes across as a woman who's unaware that she might be showing more than she knows.

[J. Allen]

Next she'll be showing her goddamn devil ankles.

[Nerys Myk]

Anything goes.

[Mr Light]

30 ROCK is one of my all time favorite sit coms, vying with Arrested Development for the top spot. An amazingly talented and hilarious series. I'm really sad it's over, but I'm so happy we got seven years despite low ratings. With this and The Office ending (yeah, I still like it!), next year's comedy schedule is going to be vast inferior...