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Old February 4 2013, 08:55 PM   #31
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Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

I see no reason why the Union Jack can't fly next to the Flag of the United Federation of Planets. I'm sure the United Kingdom still exists as a polity within the United Earth polity, which itself still exists within the Federation.

Though I, too, would have preferred to see the Flag of United Earth fly alongside the Union Jack and Federation Flag.

Also, I'm more bothered by the fact that the Union Jack seems to be upside down.
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Old February 4 2013, 08:56 PM   #32
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Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

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Ooh, no. No chavs, please.
I'll bet Chavs are 'innit'...

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Old February 4 2013, 09:04 PM   #33
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The building with the union jack on it is the building that explodes!

I wonder what Scotland thinks about still being part of the UK in 2259?

Of course, we know that in Star Trek the Soviet Union still launches starships in the 24th Century. (The Naked Now, TNG) so I guess its ok
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Old February 4 2013, 10:13 PM   #34
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United Earth? United Federation of Planets? I thought 22nd century Trek had a world government! Since when were there separate countries in Star Trek? To me, this is a big screw up.
The real question is has the British Monarchy survived into the 22nd Century and is the Windsor family line still on the throne?
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Old February 4 2013, 10:18 PM   #35
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Yes, and expect the Last Holdout Nation State in the 23rd Century to be reigned, but not ruled, by a sometimes dotty family of imported German Monarchs.

You've heard of the Space Hippies? You haven't lived until you've seen the 23rd Century Version of the Space Windsors...

Oh, of course, the only question left for England is this: have they made it past Andorra or a visiting Rigelian Friendly Team in World Cup Qualifying?

You know, from 2258 to 1966 is a really, really long time!

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I see no reason why the Union Jack can't fly next to the Flag of the United Federation of Planets. I'm sure the United Kingdom still exists as a polity within the United Earth polity, which itself still exists within the Federation.

Though I, too, would have preferred to see the Flag of United Earth fly alongside the Union Jack and Federation Flag.

Also, I'm more bothered by the fact that the Union Jack seems to be upside down.
Typical American mistake by a bunch of Yanks from Los Angeles who think that just because they know some lines from the "Spanish Inquisition" sketch and the "Dead Parrot" sketch, they get to fly the Union Flag upside down.

Two words: "Jesus wept."
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Old February 4 2013, 10:38 PM   #36
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United Earth? United Federation of Planets? I thought 22nd century Trek had a world government! Since when were there separate countries in Star Trek? To me, this is a big screw up.
The real question is has the British Monarchy survived into the 22nd Century and is the Windsor family line still on the throne?
My thoughts as well, it has something to do with the dissolution or dismantling of the Monarchy in the time between now and then.
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Old February 4 2013, 10:41 PM   #37
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More importantly, is the Daily Mail still around?
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Old February 4 2013, 10:47 PM   #38
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My thoughts as well, it has something to do with the dissolution or dismantling of the Monarchy in the time between now and then.
Well if Oxford can survive into the 24th century and Data is a professor at the University surely the Monarchy can survive well into the 22nd century.
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Old February 4 2013, 10:48 PM   #39
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King Henry XVIII?
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Old February 4 2013, 10:50 PM   #40
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Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

We know the Monarchy survives until at least ENT's time, as Malcolm Reed's father (and grandfather) are said to be Royal Navy veterans.
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Old February 4 2013, 10:53 PM   #41
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Well of course flying the Union Flag upside down is a distress signal. As for why it is being flown. Perhaps because that sequence is set in the UK, and the Union Flag is just a visual indicator that we are in the UK. Just as if it was set in the US the American Flag would be flying.
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Old February 4 2013, 11:12 PM   #42
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My thoughts as well, it has something to do with the dissolution or dismantling of the Monarchy in the time between now and then.
Well if Oxford can survive into the 24th century and Data is a professor at the University surely the Monarchy can survive well into the 22nd century.
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We know the Monarchy survives until at least ENT's time, as Malcolm Reed's father (and grandfather) are said to be Royal Navy veterans.
CRAP! Now I have "they should have done a clean reboot" butthurt.

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Well of course flying the Union Flag upside down is a distress signal.
That is true. Or THIS still occurs.

EDIT: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/s...-2012112951186
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Old February 4 2013, 11:34 PM   #43
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The redcoats are coming the redcoats are coming !!!

Sorry lot of English stuff in this film so glad ??? Hopefully a chilling British villain !!!

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Old February 5 2013, 12:10 AM   #44
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Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

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Well of course flying the Union Flag upside down is a distress signal. As for why it is being flown. Perhaps because that sequence is set in the UK, and the Union Flag is just a visual indicator that we are in the UK. Just as if it was set in the US the American Flag would be flying.
Exactly how is the Union Flag supposed to be upside down? An American flag, upside down, would have the field of stars at the bottom of the flag. The Canadian flag would have an upside down maple leaf. The Union flag is symmetrical, is it not? Putting it upside down gives you the same image, non? (or maybe I need a new pair of glasses)
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Old February 5 2013, 12:14 AM   #45
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The Union flag is symmetrical, is it not? Putting it upside down gives you the same image, non? (or maybe I need a new pair of glasses)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_jack#Flying
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