RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 140,911
Posts: 5,477,983
Members: 25,052
Currently online: 532
Newest member: vova123

TrekToday headlines

New Star Trek Funko Pop! Vinyl Figures
By: T'Bonz on Nov 26

QMx Mini Phaser Ornament
By: T'Bonz on Nov 26

Stewart as Neo-Nazi Skinhead
By: T'Bonz on Nov 26

Klingon Bloodwine To Debut
By: T'Bonz on Nov 25

Trek Actors In War Of The Worlds Fundraiser
By: T'Bonz on Nov 25

Star Trek: The Next Generation Gag Reel Tease
By: T'Bonz on Nov 24

Shatner In Haven
By: T'Bonz on Nov 24

Retro Review: Covenant
By: Michelle on Nov 22

Two Official Starships Collection Previews
By: T'Bonz on Nov 21

Saldana: Women Issues In Hollywood
By: T'Bonz on Nov 21


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Star Trek Movies > Star Trek Movies XI+

Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old February 4 2013, 08:55 PM   #31
Sci
Admiral
 
Sci's Avatar
 
Location: "Don't blame me--I voted for Jaresh-Inyo!"
Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

I see no reason why the Union Jack can't fly next to the Flag of the United Federation of Planets. I'm sure the United Kingdom still exists as a polity within the United Earth polity, which itself still exists within the Federation.

Though I, too, would have preferred to see the Flag of United Earth fly alongside the Union Jack and Federation Flag.

Also, I'm more bothered by the fact that the Union Jack seems to be upside down.
__________________
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it." - George Orwell, 1946
Sci is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 4 2013, 08:56 PM   #32
Relayer1
Commodore
 
Relayer1's Avatar
 
Location: The Black Country, England
Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

ITL wrote: View Post
Ooh, no. No chavs, please.
I'll bet Chavs are 'innit'...

__________________
Soon oh soon the light, Pass within and soothe this endless night, And wait here for you, Our reason to be here...
Relayer1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 4 2013, 09:04 PM   #33
Flake
Commodore
 
Location: Manchester, UK
Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

The building with the union jack on it is the building that explodes!

I wonder what Scotland thinks about still being part of the UK in 2259?

Of course, we know that in Star Trek the Soviet Union still launches starships in the 24th Century. (The Naked Now, TNG) so I guess its ok
Flake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 4 2013, 10:13 PM   #34
DarthTom
Fleet Admiral
 
DarthTom's Avatar
 
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

I am not Spock wrote: View Post
United Earth? United Federation of Planets? I thought 22nd century Trek had a world government! Since when were there separate countries in Star Trek? To me, this is a big screw up.
The real question is has the British Monarchy survived into the 22nd Century and is the Windsor family line still on the throne?
DarthTom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 4 2013, 10:18 PM   #35
section9
Commander
 
section9's Avatar
 
Location: Sunrise, Florida
Yes, and expect the Last Holdout Nation State in the 23rd Century to be reigned, but not ruled, by a sometimes dotty family of imported German Monarchs.

You've heard of the Space Hippies? You haven't lived until you've seen the 23rd Century Version of the Space Windsors...

Oh, of course, the only question left for England is this: have they made it past Andorra or a visiting Rigelian Friendly Team in World Cup Qualifying?

You know, from 2258 to 1966 is a really, really long time!

Sci wrote: View Post
I see no reason why the Union Jack can't fly next to the Flag of the United Federation of Planets. I'm sure the United Kingdom still exists as a polity within the United Earth polity, which itself still exists within the Federation.

Though I, too, would have preferred to see the Flag of United Earth fly alongside the Union Jack and Federation Flag.

Also, I'm more bothered by the fact that the Union Jack seems to be upside down.
Typical American mistake by a bunch of Yanks from Los Angeles who think that just because they know some lines from the "Spanish Inquisition" sketch and the "Dead Parrot" sketch, they get to fly the Union Flag upside down.

Two words: "Jesus wept."
__________________
"History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it!" - Winston S. Churchill

Last edited by M'Sharak; February 5 2013 at 12:31 AM. Reason: merging three consecutive posts into one
section9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 4 2013, 10:38 PM   #36
The Keeper
Commodore
 
Location: Where Reality Ends and Illusion Begins
Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

DarthTom wrote: View Post
I am not Spock wrote: View Post
United Earth? United Federation of Planets? I thought 22nd century Trek had a world government! Since when were there separate countries in Star Trek? To me, this is a big screw up.
The real question is has the British Monarchy survived into the 22nd Century and is the Windsor family line still on the throne?
My thoughts as well, it has something to do with the dissolution or dismantling of the Monarchy in the time between now and then.
__________________
The Keeper
The Keeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 4 2013, 10:41 PM   #37
SalvorHardin
Rear Admiral
 
SalvorHardin's Avatar
 
Location: Star's End
View SalvorHardin's Twitter Profile
Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

More importantly, is the Daily Mail still around?
__________________

SalvorHardin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 4 2013, 10:47 PM   #38
DarthTom
Fleet Admiral
 
DarthTom's Avatar
 
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

The Keeper wrote: View Post
My thoughts as well, it has something to do with the dissolution or dismantling of the Monarchy in the time between now and then.
Well if Oxford can survive into the 24th century and Data is a professor at the University surely the Monarchy can survive well into the 22nd century.
DarthTom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 4 2013, 10:48 PM   #39
Kruezerman
Fleet Captain
 
Kruezerman's Avatar
 
Location: The corner of San Antonio and a bottle of Fireball
Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

King Henry XVIII?
__________________
I'm not saying it's cold, but I just keyed two cars with my nipples.
Kruezerman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old February 4 2013, 10:50 PM   #40
Mr. Laser Beam
Fleet Admiral
 
Mr. Laser Beam's Avatar
 
Location: The visitor's bullpen
View Mr. Laser Beam's Twitter Profile
Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

We know the Monarchy survives until at least ENT's time, as Malcolm Reed's father (and grandfather) are said to be Royal Navy veterans.
__________________
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
Mr. Laser Beam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 4 2013, 10:53 PM   #41
MacLeod
Admiral
 
Location: Great Britain
Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

Well of course flying the Union Flag upside down is a distress signal. As for why it is being flown. Perhaps because that sequence is set in the UK, and the Union Flag is just a visual indicator that we are in the UK. Just as if it was set in the US the American Flag would be flying.
__________________
On the continent of wild endeavour in the mountains of solace and solitude there stood the citadel of the time lords, the oldest and most mighty race in the universe looking down on the galaxies below sworn never to interfere only to watch.
MacLeod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 4 2013, 11:12 PM   #42
The Keeper
Commodore
 
Location: Where Reality Ends and Illusion Begins
Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

DarthTom wrote: View Post
The Keeper wrote: View Post
My thoughts as well, it has something to do with the dissolution or dismantling of the Monarchy in the time between now and then.
Well if Oxford can survive into the 24th century and Data is a professor at the University surely the Monarchy can survive well into the 22nd century.
Different Continuity. *URL* Awww yeah, bulletproof ...

Mr. Laser Beam wrote: View Post
We know the Monarchy survives until at least ENT's time, as Malcolm Reed's father (and grandfather) are said to be Royal Navy veterans.
CRAP! Now I have "they should have done a clean reboot" butthurt.

MacLeod wrote: View Post
Well of course flying the Union Flag upside down is a distress signal.
That is true. Or THIS still occurs.

EDIT: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/s...-2012112951186
__________________
The Keeper

Last edited by The Keeper; February 4 2013 at 11:56 PM.
The Keeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 4 2013, 11:34 PM   #43
Nero's Shadow
Captain
 
Nero's Shadow's Avatar
 
Location: Into Darkness !!!
Send a message via Yahoo to Nero's Shadow
Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

The redcoats are coming the redcoats are coming !!!

Sorry lot of English stuff in this film so glad ??? Hopefully a chilling British villain !!!

JOHN HARRISON I'm good at everything !!!!
__________________
That green blooded son of a bitch !!!!
Nero's Shadow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 5 2013, 12:10 AM   #44
Ovation
Vice Admiral
 
Location: La Belle Province or The Green Mountain State (depends on the day of the week)
Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

MacLeod wrote: View Post
Well of course flying the Union Flag upside down is a distress signal. As for why it is being flown. Perhaps because that sequence is set in the UK, and the Union Flag is just a visual indicator that we are in the UK. Just as if it was set in the US the American Flag would be flying.
Exactly how is the Union Flag supposed to be upside down? An American flag, upside down, would have the field of stars at the bottom of the flag. The Canadian flag would have an upside down maple leaf. The Union flag is symmetrical, is it not? Putting it upside down gives you the same image, non? (or maybe I need a new pair of glasses)
Ovation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 5 2013, 12:14 AM   #45
Shazam!
Rear Admiral
 
Shazam!'s Avatar
 
Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

Ovation wrote: View Post
The Union flag is symmetrical, is it not? Putting it upside down gives you the same image, non? (or maybe I need a new pair of glasses)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_jack#Flying
Shazam! is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:54 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.