Countdown to Darkness - Review and Discussion - Page 2

JarodRussell · January 27 2013, 01:30 AM

The main villain clearly is Darth Vader.

Therin of Andor · January 30 2013, 08:55 AM

Read it on the train home last night. Last page was a huge, pleasant surprise!

Therin of Andor · February 4 2013, 02:54 AM

Here's a stray thought:

ATimson · February 4 2013, 03:21 AM

Therin of Andor wrote:

Here's a stray thought:

bullethead · February 4 2013, 03:48 AM

Literary Treks had an interesting theory:

I think it could work and would deal with the ship problem, but I don't know if they would do more universe hopping in the comics/Abramsverse.

Allyn Gibson · February 4 2013, 04:03 AM

bullethead wrote:

Literary Treks had an interesting theory:

Avro Arrow · February 4 2013, 04:36 AM

ATimson wrote:

Therin of Andor wrote:

Here's a stray thought:

Saul · February 4 2013, 02:49 PM

ATimson · February 4 2013, 03:11 PM

Saul wrote:

Christopher · February 4 2013, 04:55 PM

^"Held for later?" That implies that the number would've had some special significance in-universe, which doesn't make sense. The only reason it seems significant to us fans is because we've associated it with our favorite ship for decades. In-universe, before the Enterprise was built, 1701 would've been just another number, no more significant than any other.

ATimson · February 4 2013, 05:21 PM

Christopher wrote:

^"Held for later?" That implies that the number would've had some special significance in-universe, which doesn't make sense. The only reason it seems significant to us fans is because we've associated it with our favorite ship for decades. In-universe, before the Enterprise was built, 1701 would've been just another number, no more significant than any other.

That was badly phrased; I didn't mean to imply it was deliberately reserved, but rather that I would've expected an Enterprise commissioned in ~2245 under April's command to have used that number (unless Starfleet drastically cut their shipbuilding numbers compared to the Prime universe).

That said, I'm now less convinced of that point the more that I think about it.

Mr. Laser Beam · February 4 2013, 06:51 PM

ATimson wrote:

I'm wondering if there was a different Enterprise - a 1000-range ship like the Constellation? - that was destroyed in the Prime timeline

Not possible. In "Trials and Tribble-ations" Dulmur and Lucsly say that there have been six Federation ships named Enterprise. This includes the original 1701, plus the A through E versions. That's it.

ATimson · February 4 2013, 06:59 PM

Mr. Laser Beam wrote:

Not possible. In "Trials and Tribble-ations" Dulmur and Lucsly say that there have been six Federation ships named Enterprise. This includes the original 1701, plus the A through E versions. That's it.

D'oh. Forgot about that. Well, now I'm really interested to find out what ship April captained.

Christopher · February 4 2013, 07:06 PM

^But that's the original timeline. The Abrams timeline diverged in 2233 -- which is why NCC-1701 was launched in 2258 instead of 2245, why Chekov is four years older, etc. So it's conceivable that there could've been an earlier Enterprise launched between 2233 and 2258.

Ronald Held · February 4 2013, 07:33 PM

Lauched earlier and destroyed quickly enough in order the start construction of the constitution class Enterprise to fit the jj time line?

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January 27 2013, 01:30 AM	#16
JarodRussell Vice Admiral	Re: Countdown to Darkness - Review and Discussion The main villain clearly is Darth Vader. __________________ lol l /\

January 30 2013, 08:55 AM	#17
Therin of Andor Admiral Location: New Therin Park, Andor (via Australia)	Re: Countdown to Darkness - Review and Discussion Read it on the train home last night. Last page was a huge, pleasant surprise! __________________ Thiptho lapth! Ian (Entire post is personal opinion) The Andor Files @ http://andorfiles.blogspot.com/ http://therinofandor.blogspot.com/

February 4 2013, 02:54 AM	#18
Therin of Andor Admiral Location: New Therin Park, Andor (via Australia)	Re: Countdown to Darkness - Review and Discussion Here's a stray thought: What if Khan's sleeper ship, Botany Bay, was once found by Captain Robert April's earlier Enterprise - and Khan and his Augments took over the ship and... abandoned April and his crew on Phaedus? __________________ Thiptho lapth! Ian (Entire post is personal opinion) The Andor Files @ http://andorfiles.blogspot.com/ http://therinofandor.blogspot.com/

February 4 2013, 03:48 AM	#20
bullethead Fleet Captain	Re: Countdown to Darkness - Review and Discussion Literary Treks had an interesting theory: Robert April is from an alternate universe. I think it could work and would deal with the ship problem, but I don't know if they would do more universe hopping in the comics/Abramsverse. __________________ A business man and engineer discuss how to launch a communications satellite in the 1960s: *Biz Dev Guy*: Your communications satellite has to be the size, shape, and weight of a hydrogen bomb.

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February 4 2013, 02:49 PM	#23
Saul Rear Admiral Location: 東京	Re: Countdown to Darkness - Review and Discussion Have him command an Enterprise with a different registry. We've seen it happen before. Maybe in this universe they won't go with letters. __________________ "It's not that you can see the strings, it's that 40 years later you're still looking at them." - Steven Moffat "This movie was big. Imagine how big it could have been with me in it?" William Shatner

February 4 2013, 04:55 PM	#25
Christopher Writer	Re: Countdown to Darkness - Review and Discussion ^"Held for later?" That implies that the number would've had some special significance in-universe, which doesn't make sense. The only reason it seems significant to us fans is because we've associated it with our favorite ship for decades. In-universe, before the Enterprise was built, 1701 would've been just another number, no more significant than any other. __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Includes purchasing links for Only Superhuman, on sale now! Updated 12/30/12 with annotations for the novel. Written Worlds -- My blog

February 4 2013, 07:06 PM	#29
Christopher Writer	Re: Countdown to Darkness - Review and Discussion ^But that's the original timeline. The Abrams timeline diverged in 2233 -- which is why NCC-1701 was launched in 2258 instead of 2245, why Chekov is four years older, etc. So it's conceivable that there could've been an earlier Enterprise launched between 2233 and 2258. __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Includes purchasing links for Only Superhuman, on sale now! Updated 12/30/12 with annotations for the novel. Written Worlds -- My blog

February 4 2013, 07:33 PM	#30
Ronald Held Rear Admiral Location: On the USS Sovereign	Re: Countdown to Darkness - Review and Discussion Lauched earlier and destroyed quickly enough in order the start construction of the constitution class Enterprise to fit the jj time line?