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Old February 4 2013, 04:28 PM   #91
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Re: Super Bowl....47.

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I just noticed something regarding the Super Bowl and Into Darkness... It is Super Bowl 47 and we have a Trek trailer....funny coincidence.
No, the coincidence was half the stadium going "into darkness".
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Old February 4 2013, 04:32 PM   #92
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Re: Expecting Trailer?/Super Bowl Trailer is Live Now [SPOILERS]

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JJ Abrams wrote:
The reason you go to the movies is to feel bigger and stronger and happier.
Such bullshit. My favourite genre is horror, explain that one JJ.
You don't feel strong/happy that you survived and the cast didn't?
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Old February 4 2013, 04:33 PM   #93
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I have a explanation for the 'bubbles' everyone is talking about that seems to be coming from the front part of the saucer. It's the Enterpise's Fire Suppression Systems at work trying to put out the fire with water caused by battle damage. The water is leaking through the hull breach as the ship heads towards the atmosphere.
Or just the ship's water supply being breached. The old 1975(ish) Enterprise blueprints by Franz Joseph had the water supply stored in the saucer. It's something I liked in the first film - Robau walking through puddles, with leaking pipes overhead.
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Old February 4 2013, 04:40 PM   #94
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I'm thinking it's air escaping from the ship, the ship looks like she lost power and has numerous hull breaches so there could be loss of air.

Or it could be smoke from inside as well.
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Old February 4 2013, 04:47 PM   #95
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I have a explanation for the 'bubbles' everyone is talking about that seems to be coming from the front part of the saucer. It's the Enterpise's Fire Suppression Systems at work trying to put out the fire with water caused by battle damage. The water is leaking through the hull breach as the ship heads towards the atmosphere.
Or just the ship's water supply being breached. The old 1975(ish) Enterprise blueprints by Franz Joseph had the water supply stored in the saucer. It's something I liked in the first film - Robau walking through puddles, with leaking pipes overhead.
Hopefully Scotty isn't trapped in the water pipes again!
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Old February 4 2013, 04:56 PM   #96
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Old February 4 2013, 05:06 PM   #97
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JJ Abrams wrote:
The reason you go to the movies is to feel bigger and stronger and happier.
Such bullshit. My favourite genre is horror, explain that one JJ.
Doesn't the plot resolution of many horror films often include some sort of "triumph over a threat"?

I would think that would give you a stronger feeling.
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Old February 4 2013, 05:31 PM   #98
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Old February 4 2013, 05:32 PM   #99
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I have a explanation for the 'bubbles' everyone is talking about that seems to be coming from the front part of the saucer. It's the Enterpise's Fire Suppression Systems at work trying to put out the fire with water caused by battle damage. The water is leaking through the hull breach as the ship heads towards the atmosphere.
Or just the ship's water supply being breached. The old 1975(ish) Enterprise blueprints by Franz Joseph had the water supply stored in the saucer. It's something I liked in the first film - Robau walking through puddles, with leaking pipes overhead.
[Puts on tinfoil hat]
What if it's CG work to disguise the ship's actual registry number and name for the trailers; the Connie crashing towards Earth isn't Enterprise at all, but another Constitution-class ship?
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Old February 4 2013, 05:47 PM   #100
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M y biggest gripe with Enterprise taking so much damage and falling to the planet is that it really does little to help Kirk as a character. He gets to be captain at the end of the last movie, and the first adventure, he (nearly) loses his ship?

Doesn't sit right with me. Makes him seem incompetent.
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Old February 4 2013, 05:53 PM   #101
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Since Nu-Enterprise is supposed to be Starfleet's flagship, and latest state-of-art technology - It seems to me that whatever the other ship is, it would appear have some superior firepower to the Enterprise to cause that level of damage.

Maybe Cumberbatch commandeers a Dreadnaught class ship.
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Old February 4 2013, 06:00 PM   #102
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I could never understand what was in the saucer section forward of the bridge. When the Enterprise self-annihilated, this area was the first to go and the ship lost balance. When the Melbourne was attacked by the Borg, after having that area destroyed, the ship went adrift and was unable to continue the fight. When the Miranda-class starships lost this area, they too became permanently disabled. What is it about this area of those ships that produces this result? What ever it was seemed to disappear by the late 24th century, or the Enterprise-E would have been permanently disabled after its crash with the Scimitar or the Voyager after having been bashed as it was in Year of Hell would have found it impossible to ram that Krenim time ship.

I am not sure if the bubbles are air or water. There appear to be bubbles coming from the damaged starboard warp nacelle and from the leading edge of the saucer. Would there be air in the nacelles?

As for incompetence, I think that is a Starfleet trademark. As an example, Commander Riker loses in a fight to a pair of aging mothball Klingon bird-of-preys commanded by the Ferengi. (Ferengi have had only one notable battle in their history, and they lost that battle. These are not military geniuses.) Every time the Federation gets into a knock-out, drag-out fight, with the Klingons or the Dominion, they seem to be losing. It's only when faced against lesser opponents, like the Cardassians or the Talarians, that the Federation seems to come out on top.
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Old February 4 2013, 06:02 PM   #103
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Since Nu-Enterprise is supposed to be Starfleet's flagship, and latest state-of-art technology - It seems to me that whatever the other ship is, it would appear have some superior firepower to the Enterprise to cause that level of damage.

Maybe Cumberbatch commandeers a Dreadnaught class ship.
I don't think so. Based on the idea of Cumberbatch's character "detonating the fleet", I'm betting that he blows up Starbase 1, or possibly one of the ships docked at Starbase 1, and the result is a few ships get tossed into Earth's atmo. The Connie-class we're seeing isn't the only ship plummeting from the sky.
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Old February 4 2013, 06:22 PM   #104
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Since Nu-Enterprise is supposed to be Starfleet's flagship, and latest state-of-art technology - It seems to me that whatever the other ship is, it would appear have some superior firepower to the Enterprise to cause that level of damage.

Maybe Cumberbatch commandeers a Dreadnaught class ship.
I don't think so. Based on the idea of Cumberbatch's character "detonating the fleet", I'm betting that he blows up Starbase 1, or possibly one of the ships docked at Starbase 1, and the result is a few ships get tossed into Earth's atmo. The Connie-class we're seeing isn't the only ship plummeting from the sky.
At one point in an earlier trailer we do see him in a captains chair on a bridge that doesn't seem to be a Constitution style of ship.
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Old February 4 2013, 06:55 PM   #105
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Nah, it's definitely the Enterprise. After watching and reviewing the full HD version, it is indeed the E.



Here you can see what I mean though...it's like the name itself was targeted specifically. Whether it was by the attacker or just the SFX guys thinking it'd be cool is of course yet to be seen. Makes me wonder though if Harrison is indeed April, and April is indeed a former Enterprise captain...maybe he'd have reason to want the name scratched off the hull?
It's a TOS purist...trying to erase nu-Enterprise from canon.

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