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Old February 4 2013, 12:46 PM   #16
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Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

Our flag in the film? Hooray! More of that, please.
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Old February 4 2013, 12:48 PM   #17
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And future chavs.
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Old February 4 2013, 12:49 PM   #18
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Ooh, no. No chavs, please.
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Old February 4 2013, 01:15 PM   #19
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Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

Picard on occasion seemed to speak of France as if it were still a nation, and in the Last Outpost he indicated France in the 24th century still possessed a flag (and that he liked it colors).

Picard also spoke of Riker being a "countryman" with a American historical figure.
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Old February 4 2013, 01:53 PM   #20
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The currently accepted (but not necessarily historic) terminology is that it is called the Union Flag, only known as the Union Jack when flown on a warship.

Your mileage may vary...
And that fact, I learned from Rose Tyler ("The Idiot Box" of all things).
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Old February 4 2013, 02:06 PM   #21
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Could create a spoof with the chavs haha. Chavs mugging a Vulcan and the Vulcan just nerve pinching the lot of them. Maybe there would be Alien chavs who settled on earth and just happened to fall into chav like ways. Imagine a bolian with a track suit with the pants tucked into his socks gold teeth and a cap haha.
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Old February 4 2013, 02:07 PM   #22
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Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

One could argue that the Union flag doesn't make much sense if the British Isles are fully integrated in a united Earth government. Seeing English, Scottish and Irish flags would make more sense.
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Old February 4 2013, 02:21 PM   #23
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Imagine a bolian with a track suit with the pants tucked into his socks gold teeth and a cap haha.
Hmm...that sounds strangely like a burberry flag I once saw somewhere.

What people expect British men to be like: Hello darling, oh you look lovely today. Would you like to go for a cup of tea?

What British men where I live are like: Ite bbz, I wuz wundrin if u wuz cool to link up innit
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Old February 4 2013, 02:26 PM   #24
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Well England might still use the union flag as decoration as I recall reading somewhere that if Scotland gets independence we're not going to change the flag.
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Old February 4 2013, 02:40 PM   #25
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The relevant line from "The Last Outpost" is:

Colors representing countries at a time when they competed with each other.
As for Australia, it was referred to in a hypothetical situation - what if this country hadn't joined United Earth in 2150?
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Old February 4 2013, 03:40 PM   #26
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How can it be a screw up when everything changed in the beginning of the last film?
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Old February 4 2013, 04:06 PM   #27
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In "The Royale," a U.S. Flag is shown and later Picard remarks that the markings on the "object" were "consistent with the hypothesis" that it was launched in the mid-21st century.

So, so far no canonical evidence that nations don't exist in Kirk's time.

Iowa does. Wonder if it still has a state flag? Probably does.
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Old February 4 2013, 04:13 PM   #28
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So, so far no canonical evidence that nations don't exist in Kirk's time.

Iowa does. Wonder if it still has a state flag? Probably does.
Yeah, symbols don't just go away.
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Old February 4 2013, 05:13 PM   #29
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But they do go out of use on occasion.

In any case, this does appear to be the first time a flag of a nation would be flown in the 23rd century of Star Trek pseudohistory, rather than merely dug from the dustbins of said pseudohistory. Unless we count the flag of Cuba from "The Menagerie", but that one was never seen unfurled.

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Old February 4 2013, 05:48 PM   #30
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Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

Of course, the Cuba flag is displayed in the courtroom in The Menagerie.

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=141519

Perhaps Commodore José Mendez is from Cuba and it was displayed because he was presiding over the court?
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