RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 140,835
Posts: 5,473,346
Members: 25,039
Currently online: 376
Newest member: noroadcordova

TrekToday headlines

Retro Review: Covenant
By: Michelle on Nov 22

Two Official Starships Collection Previews
By: T'Bonz on Nov 21

Saldana: Women Issues In Hollywood
By: T'Bonz on Nov 21

Shatner Book Kickstarter
By: T'Bonz on Nov 20

Trek Original Series Slippers
By: T'Bonz on Nov 19

Hemsworth Is Sexiest Man Alive
By: T'Bonz on Nov 19

Trek Business Card Cases
By: T'Bonz on Nov 17

February IDW Publishing Trek Comics
By: T'Bonz on Nov 17

Retro Review: The Siege of AR-558
By: Michelle on Nov 15

Trevco Full Bleed Uniform T-Shirts
By: T'Bonz on Nov 14


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Entertainment & Interests > TV & Media

TV & Media Non-Trek television, movies, books, music, etc.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old February 2 2013, 11:15 PM   #61
Dale Sams
Fleet Captain
 
Dale Sams's Avatar
 
Re: 30 Rock: Final Season (Discussion, spoilers, etc.)

A beaker full of death wrote: View Post
Good riddance. Fey was nowhere near as clever as she thought she was, and her cleavage only got her so far.
Cleavage? Are you sure you're not thinking of someone else?
Dale Sams is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 2 2013, 11:26 PM   #62
A beaker full of death
Vice Admiral
 
A beaker full of death's Avatar
 
Re: 30 Rock: Final Season (Discussion, spoilers, etc.)

^ Quite. Pretty much all the episodes I've seen feature her in something low cut enough for boobage (such as it is) to be on display.
__________________
"shall not be infringed" is naturally open to infringements of all kinds, because shut up and think of the children.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/...#ixzz2ImW0V3GV
A beaker full of death is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 2 2013, 11:30 PM   #63
J. Allen
Going Nowhere Fast
 
J. Allen's Avatar
 
Location: Ohio *sigh*
Send a message via ICQ to J. Allen Send a message via AIM to J. Allen Send a message via Windows Live Messenger to J. Allen Send a message via Yahoo to J. Allen
Re: 30 Rock: Final Season (Discussion, spoilers, etc.)

A beaker full of death wrote: View Post
Good riddance. Fey was nowhere near as clever as she thought she was, and her cleavage only got her so far.
Hey now, not every show can be as awesome and popular as LOST. Then again, J.J. Abrams is just too damned good to confine himself to television, you know?
__________________
-----------------------
💗 Visit Brony Kingdom 💗
-----------------------
J. Allen is online now   Reply With Quote
Old February 2 2013, 11:43 PM   #64
FFunctionalData
Lieutenant Commander
 
Re: 30 Rock: Final Season (Discussion, spoilers, etc.)

A beaker full of death wrote: View Post
Good riddance. Fey was nowhere near as clever as she thought she was, and her cleavage only got her so far.
cleavage?

what show were you watching?
FFunctionalData is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 2 2013, 11:48 PM   #65
J. Allen
Going Nowhere Fast
 
J. Allen's Avatar
 
Location: Ohio *sigh*
Send a message via ICQ to J. Allen Send a message via AIM to J. Allen Send a message via Windows Live Messenger to J. Allen Send a message via Yahoo to J. Allen
Re: 30 Rock: Final Season (Discussion, spoilers, etc.)

FFunctionalData wrote: View Post
A beaker full of death wrote: View Post
Good riddance. Fey was nowhere near as clever as she thought she was, and her cleavage only got her so far.
cleavage?

what show were you watching?
I'm not sure. In fact, it was a bit of a running joke that Liz Lemon was boyish.
__________________
-----------------------
💗 Visit Brony Kingdom 💗
-----------------------
J. Allen is online now   Reply With Quote
Old February 3 2013, 01:04 AM   #66
the G-man
Commodore
 
the G-man's Avatar
 
Location: to your immediate right
Re: 30 Rock: Final Season (Discussion, spoilers, etc.)

Actually BfoD is (partially) correct. While Liz was supposed to be boyish, Fey herself displayed a fair amount of (very fine IMO) cleavage in a number of episodes, often with Liz wearing a moderately low cut shirt under her blazer.

Basically, Liz/Fey was an example of that old TV trope where the "ugly" character is actually a knockout. Everyone talked about how plain she was but objectively she had a very pretty face and nice, curvy, body.

That being said, I think Fey's talents extended well beyond her looks.
the G-man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 3 2013, 01:14 AM   #67
J. Allen
Going Nowhere Fast
 
J. Allen's Avatar
 
Location: Ohio *sigh*
Send a message via ICQ to J. Allen Send a message via AIM to J. Allen Send a message via Windows Live Messenger to J. Allen Send a message via Yahoo to J. Allen
Re: 30 Rock: Final Season (Discussion, spoilers, etc.)

the G-man wrote: View Post
Actually BfoD is (partially) correct. While Liz was supposed to be boyish, Fey herself displayed a fair amount of (very fine IMO) cleavage in a number of episodes, often with Liz wearing a moderately low cut shirt under her blazer.

Basically, Liz/Fey was an example of that old TV trope where the "ugly" character is actually a knockout. Everyone talked about how plain she was but objectively she had a very pretty face and nice, curvy, body.

That being said, I think Fey's talents extended well beyond her looks.
I'll give him partial credit that she does, indeed, have cleavage. The rest of his analysis is lacking, though. I mean, I understand that they can't all be Star Trek: The Animated Series, but it's still a good show.
__________________
-----------------------
💗 Visit Brony Kingdom 💗
-----------------------
J. Allen is online now   Reply With Quote
Old February 3 2013, 01:36 AM   #68
boobatuba
Rear Admiral
 
boobatuba's Avatar
 
Location: Stillwater, OK
Re: 30 Rock: Final Season (Discussion, spoilers, etc.)

A beaker full of death wrote: View Post
Good riddance. Fey was nowhere near as clever as she thought she was, and her cleavage only got her so far.
Totally disagree. Tina Fey is a fine actress, and I find that remark incredibly sexist.
__________________
Your benevolent dictator for life.
boobatuba is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 3 2013, 01:55 AM   #69
J.T.B.
Commodore
 
J.T.B.'s Avatar
 
Re: 30 Rock: Final Season (Discussion, spoilers, etc.)

A beaker full of death wrote: View Post
Good riddance. Fey was nowhere near as clever as she thought she was, and her cleavage only got her so far.

Hard for me to judge how clever she thought she was, her usual mode being self-deprecation. But she got seven years of critical acclaim, awards and network support for a show with fairly marginal ratings (plus writing a number-one selling book along the way), so I'd say she's pretty goddamn clever.
J.T.B. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 3 2013, 02:00 AM   #70
1001001
Let the Good Times Roll!!
 
1001001's Avatar
 
Location: People's Gaypublic of Drugafornia
Re: 30 Rock: Final Season (Discussion, spoilers, etc.)

Tina Fey is a national treasure.

Cute, smart, and talented.



Didn't she score really high when she was the BOTW?
__________________
“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States...The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge'.” - Isaac Asimov
1001001 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 3 2013, 02:28 AM   #71
the G-man
Commodore
 
the G-man's Avatar
 
Location: to your immediate right
Re: 30 Rock: Final Season (Discussion, spoilers, etc.)

boobatuba wrote: View Post
A beaker full of death wrote: View Post
Good riddance. Fey was nowhere near as clever as she thought she was, and her cleavage only got her so far.
Totally disagree. Tina Fey is a fine actress, and I find that remark incredibly sexist.
I disagree with his assessment of her talent but I don't think it's necessarily sexist. There are a lot of people, male and female, in show biz who try to get by on their physical attributes. If BfoD thinks she is one of them, so be it.
the G-man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 3 2013, 02:38 AM   #72
boobatuba
Rear Admiral
 
boobatuba's Avatar
 
Location: Stillwater, OK
Re: 30 Rock: Final Season (Discussion, spoilers, etc.)

the G-man wrote: View Post
I disagree with his assessment of her talent but I don't think it's necessarily sexist. There are a lot of people, male and female, in show biz who try to get by on their physical attributes. If BfoD thinks she is one of them, so be it.
Where's his evidence? As noted, she's received multiple awards and countless accolades for her work. It doesn't seem like she needs to rely on her physical attributes at all.

That's why I find such a comment sexist.
__________________
Your benevolent dictator for life.
boobatuba is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 3 2013, 02:41 AM   #73
Nerys Myk
Fleet Admiral
 
Nerys Myk's Avatar
 
Location: House of Kang with Ridges
Re: 30 Rock: Final Season (Discussion, spoilers, etc.)

Boobs and cleavage aren't the first things that come to mind when thinking about Tina Fey or Liz Lemon. So I find the idea that her success is based on her looks to be odd.
Nerys Myk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 3 2013, 02:50 AM   #74
Gov Kodos
Admiral
 
Gov Kodos's Avatar
 
Location: Gov Kodos Regretably far from Boston
Re: 30 Rock: Final Season (Discussion, spoilers, etc.)

Nerys Myk wrote: View Post
Boobs and cleavage aren't the first things that come to mind when thinking about Tina Fey or Liz Lemon. So I find the idea that her success is based on her looks to be odd.
What else would a woman be valued for?
__________________
We are quicksilver, a fleeting shadow, a distant sound... our home has no boundaries beyond which we cannot pass. We live in music, in a flash of color... we live on the wind and in the sparkle of a star! Endora, Bewitched
Gov Kodos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 3 2013, 04:46 AM   #75
the G-man
Commodore
 
the G-man's Avatar
 
Location: to your immediate right
Re: 30 Rock: Final Season (Discussion, spoilers, etc.)

boobatuba wrote: View Post
the G-man wrote: View Post
I disagree with his assessment of her talent but I don't think it's necessarily sexist. There are a lot of people, male and female, in show biz who try to get by on their physical attributes. If BfoD thinks she is one of them, so be it.
Where's his evidence? As noted, she's received multiple awards and countless accolades for her work. It doesn't seem like she needs to rely on her physical attributes at all.

That's why I find such a comment sexist.
I think I've made it clear I'm a fan of hers and I disagree with BfoD's view. She's a good writer and a good actress. At the same time, you can find many Glamour shots she's done over the years and a lot of her early Saturday Night Live hype was in the vein of "hot chick does comedy." Therefore while I find her enjoyable both for her looks and her talent, if somebody doesn't appreciate her talent I can see how they would think she got where she was on her looks. I don't see it as any more sexist then if somebody didn't like George Clooney and thought he got where he was based on his jaw line.
the G-man is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:14 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.