ST-TMP 3 CD soundtrack...

Warped9 · February 3 2013, 12:06 AM

I know this has probably been covered to death, but after getting the 15 CD complete TOS soundtrack from La-La Land I ordered the 3 CD complete ST-TMP soundtrack and am just now working my way through.

It's nice to hear pieces I don't recall from the film (which might have been edited out) as well as alternate pieces. There are also the differences between how a suite sounded on the initial soundtrack (first on vinyl then later CD) and how it was meant to sound in theatre.

Regardless of what one thinks of this film overall the soundtrack is fantastic. Of course like anyone else I have my favourite pieces, but it is truly evocative all the way through. This really is music of a band of valiant explorers aboard a mighty vessel voyaging into the alien unknown.

My favourite piece overall is the Enterprise Leaving Drydock. It's shorter and more heroic and exciting sounding than the suite accompanying the reveal of the refit Enterprise we hear earlier.

This isn't just one of the very best of Star Trek music. It's one of the best film soundtracks ever done, very well suited to its subject matter.

SchwEnt · February 3 2013, 12:12 AM

I have the three CD set, also. I agree, it's phenomenal.
One of the few instances I can recall where the score and the film itself are so intertwined, so thematic together as to be inseparable.

I can't think of TMP without that music, and without that score I don't know what the film would be.

Warped9 · February 3 2013, 12:20 AM

Listening to the alternate earlier versions of some suites it's easy to see why Robert Wise was dissatisfied. There was no unifying them in that music. It sounded somewhat naval and sweeping, but there was no core, no identity to it and no real emotion.

Christopher · February 3 2013, 12:42 AM

Aside from the alternates, I don't think there are any cues here that weren't used in the movie.

Warped9 · February 3 2013, 12:50 AM

Christopher wrote:

Aside from the alternates, I don't think there are any cues here that weren't used in the movie.

You may well be right. Unless the music really grabs your attention it's rather easy to overlook it while you're focused on what's happening onscreen.

Christopher · February 3 2013, 01:15 AM

^Well, I usually focus quite heavily on the music when watching TMP.

Maurice · February 4 2013, 07:11 AM

Actually, there is a partial cue that does not appear in the movie. The middle section of the cue TV Theme/Warp Point Nine was dialed out in the film from about 53 seconds to 1:17 (from the moment the ship jumps to warp to the point it reaches warp 7), then comes back with a bang.

Christopher · February 4 2013, 05:16 PM

Oh yeah. I remember that now.

Warped9 · February 4 2013, 05:19 PM

I like that part when the Enterprise finally goes to warp. The shot where the ship is seen coming out of the distance is very reminiscent of so many fly-bys we saw of the TOS E.

RandyS · February 4 2013, 05:41 PM

Warped9 wrote:

Regardless of what one thinks of this film overall the soundtrack is fantastic.

I agree completely with that. I have that 3 disk set too, and hearing it after listening to the 15 disk series set gave me a new appreication for Goldsmith's score.

That said though, I still think that title song does not suggest "space", so much as it reminds me more of an 1890's (or whatever decade that was popular) Barbershop Quartet.

I have no idea why that is, that's just what that title music reminds me of.

OneBuckFilms · February 5 2013, 01:18 AM

This is certainly one of my favorite CD releases, and La-La Land will continually get my praises for this release.

Combined with the TOS box, LLLR have proven beyond all doubt that they know how to treat Star Trek's musical legacy.

As for the score itself: One of Jerry Goldsmiths best works, perhaps the best he's ever done, IMHO.

ZapBrannigan · February 8 2013, 05:18 AM

I'm a big film music fan too, like OneBuckFilms, and as you can see I bought almost all the expanded STAR TREK CDs of the past few years. They're all complete, but the TMP set is so comprehensive it defies belief. They really threw in the kitchen sink!

THE WRATH OF KHAN is the one I play the most.

dub · February 9 2013, 07:53 AM

^

Nice collection! I'm incredibly jealous! I have all of the old single CD soundtracks from back in the day. I did get an expanded TMP soundtrack, but it's not the new one. Cool stuff!

ZapBrannigan · February 9 2013, 08:12 AM

dub wrote:

^

Nice collection! I'm incredibly jealous! I have all of the old single CD soundtracks from back in the day. I did get an expanded TMP soundtrack, but it's not the new one. Cool stuff!

Thanks, Dub. I just wish I had more free time to listen to it.

CaptainMurdock · February 9 2013, 10:27 PM

I just got most of the Deluxe Edition Soundtracks including the TOS Master Collection. I'm a happy camper.

February 3 2013, 12:06 AM	#1
Warped9 Admiral Location: Brockville, Ontario, Canada	ST-TMP 3 CD soundtrack... I know this has probably been covered to death, but after getting the 15 CD complete TOS soundtrack from La-La Land I ordered the 3 CD complete ST-TMP soundtrack and am just now working my way through. It's nice to hear pieces I don't recall from the film (which might have been edited out) as well as alternate pieces. There are also the differences between how a suite sounded on the initial soundtrack (first on vinyl then later CD) and how it was meant to sound in theatre. Regardless of what one thinks of this film overall the soundtrack is fantastic. Of course like anyone else I have my favourite pieces, but it is truly evocative all the way through. This really is music of a band of valiant explorers aboard a mighty vessel voyaging into the alien unknown. My favourite piece overall is the Enterprise Leaving Drydock. It's shorter and more heroic and exciting sounding than the suite accompanying the reveal of the refit Enterprise we hear earlier. This isn't just one of the very best of Star Trek music. It's one of the best film soundtracks ever done, very well suited to its subject matter. __________________ *STAR TREK:* 1964-1991

February 3 2013, 12:12 AM	#2
SchwEnt Fleet Captain	Re: ST-TMP 3 CD soundtrack... I have the three CD set, also. I agree, it's phenomenal. One of the few instances I can recall where the score and the film itself are so intertwined, so thematic together as to be inseparable. I can't think of TMP without that music, and without that score I don't know what the film would be.

February 3 2013, 12:20 AM	#3
Warped9 Admiral Location: Brockville, Ontario, Canada	Re: ST-TMP 3 CD soundtrack... Listening to the alternate earlier versions of some suites it's easy to see why Robert Wise was dissatisfied. There was no unifying them in that music. It sounded somewhat naval and sweeping, but there was no core, no identity to it and no real emotion. __________________ *STAR TREK:* 1964-1991

February 3 2013, 12:42 AM	#4
Christopher Writer	Re: ST-TMP 3 CD soundtrack... Aside from the alternates, I don't think there are any cues here that weren't used in the movie. __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Includes purchasing links for Only Superhuman, on sale now! Updated 12/30/12 with annotations for the novel. Written Worlds -- My blog

February 3 2013, 01:15 AM	#6
Christopher Writer	Re: ST-TMP 3 CD soundtrack... ^Well, I usually focus quite heavily on the music when watching TMP. __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Includes purchasing links for Only Superhuman, on sale now! Updated 12/30/12 with annotations for the novel. Written Worlds -- My blog

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February 4 2013, 07:11 AM	#7
Maurice Rear Admiral Location: Maurice in San Francisco	Re: ST-TMP 3 CD soundtrack... Actually, there is a partial cue that does not appear in the movie. The middle section of the cue TV Theme/Warp Point Nine was dialed out in the film from about 53 seconds to 1:17 (from the moment the ship jumps to warp to the point it reaches warp 7), then comes back with a bang. __________________ * * * "Star Trek…at times sparkled with true ingenuity, and pure science fiction approaches, and at other times was more carnival like, and very much more the creature of television than the creature of a legitimate literary form." —Rod Serling, 1970"

February 4 2013, 05:16 PM	#8
Christopher Writer	Re: ST-TMP 3 CD soundtrack... Oh yeah. I remember that now. __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Includes purchasing links for Only Superhuman, on sale now! Updated 12/30/12 with annotations for the novel. Written Worlds -- My blog

February 4 2013, 05:19 PM	#9
Warped9 Admiral Location: Brockville, Ontario, Canada	Re: ST-TMP 3 CD soundtrack... I like that part when the Enterprise finally goes to warp. The shot where the ship is seen coming out of the distance is very reminiscent of so many fly-bys we saw of the TOS E. __________________ *STAR TREK:* 1964-1991

February 5 2013, 01:18 AM	#11
OneBuckFilms Fleet Captain	Re: ST-TMP 3 CD soundtrack... This is certainly one of my favorite CD releases, and La-La Land will continually get my praises for this release. Combined with the TOS box, LLLR have proven beyond all doubt that they know how to treat Star Trek's musical legacy. As for the score itself: One of Jerry Goldsmiths best works, perhaps the best he's ever done, IMHO.

February 8 2013, 05:18 AM	#12
ZapBrannigan Commander Location: New York State	Re: ST-TMP 3 CD soundtrack... I'm a big film music fan too, like OneBuckFilms, and as you can see I bought almost all the expanded STAR TREK CDs of the past few years. They're all complete, but the TMP set is so comprehensive it defies belief. They really threw in the kitchen sink! THE WRATH OF KHAN is the one I play the most.

February 9 2013, 07:53 AM	#13
dub Lieutenant Commander Location: Location? What is this?	Re: ST-TMP 3 CD soundtrack... ^ Nice collection! I'm incredibly jealous! I have all of the old single CD soundtracks from back in the day. I did get an expanded TMP soundtrack, but it's not the new one. Cool stuff!

February 9 2013, 10:27 PM	#15
CaptainMurdock Lieutenant Location: Ohio	Re: ST-TMP 3 CD soundtrack... I just got most of the Deluxe Edition Soundtracks including the TOS Master Collection. I'm a happy camper.