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Old January 27 2013, 05:39 PM   #136
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Re: Official New Star Trek 2012 Game for the PC, PS3 & X360

Hoping this game does well, as I'd like to get a new Trek game every year or so.
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Old January 30 2013, 03:21 PM   #137
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Re: Official New Star Trek 2012 Game for the PC, PS3 & X360

http://news.yahoo.com/preview--new-‘...035914361.html
http://trekweb.com/articles/2013/01/...SPOILERS.shtml
When Spock performs a mind meld on one of the captured Gorn we also learn some fun and exciting details about their backstory as a merciless race of marauders that have conquered their own galaxy through endless war.
So much for remaining at all true to the Gorn of "Arena" - now they're merciless conquerors from another galaxy who get here through a wormhole??
Ugh.
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Old January 30 2013, 03:49 PM   #138
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So much for remaining at all true to the Gorn of "Arena"
You mean the ones that responded to a territorial invasion by just blowing up the outpost on the planet in question up without so much as a you have violated our space communication and then lured the Enterprise into the area and tricked some of its senior officers down to the planet to either capture or kill them, those Gorn?
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Old January 30 2013, 05:57 PM   #139
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So much for remaining at all true to the Gorn of "Arena"
You mean the ones that responded to a territorial invasion by just blowing up the outpost on the planet in question up without so much as a you have violated our space communication and then lured the Enterprise into the area and tricked some of its senior officers down to the planet to either capture or kill them, those Gorn?
I agree with Hartzilla2007 on that. From my view, there's so little established about the species that I don't see any continuity harm. We know they're aggressive, slow on physical attacks and crafty enough to lure the Enterprise into a trap. But that's about it.
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Old January 30 2013, 10:02 PM   #140
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http://news.yahoo.com/preview--new-‘...035914361.html
http://trekweb.com/articles/2013/01/...SPOILERS.shtml
When Spock performs a mind meld on one of the captured Gorn we also learn some fun and exciting details about their backstory as a merciless race of marauders that have conquered their own galaxy through endless war.
So much for remaining at all true to the Gorn of "Arena" - now they're merciless conquerors from another galaxy who get here through a wormhole??
Ugh.
Aside from the "conquered their own galaxy" thing, that's pretty accurate to the stuff seen on the screen. The fact that it ignores whatever Trek Lit has established doesn't bother me.
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Old February 1 2013, 10:03 AM   #141
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So much for remaining at all true to the Gorn of "Arena"
You mean the ones that responded to a territorial invasion by just blowing up the outpost on the planet in question up without so much as a you have violated our space communication and then lured the Enterprise into the area and tricked some of its senior officers down to the planet to either capture or kill them, those Gorn?
I agree with Hartzilla2007 on that. From my view, there's so little established about the species that I don't see any continuity harm. We know they're aggressive, slow on physical attacks and crafty enough to lure the Enterprise into a trap. But that's about it.
There people out there who don't think of NuTrek as an alternative universe?
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Old February 1 2013, 03:58 PM   #142
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You mean the ones that responded to a territorial invasion by just blowing up the outpost on the planet in question up without so much as a you have violated our space communication and then lured the Enterprise into the area and tricked some of its senior officers down to the planet to either capture or kill them, those Gorn?
I agree with Hartzilla2007 on that. From my view, there's so little established about the species that I don't see any continuity harm. We know they're aggressive, slow on physical attacks and crafty enough to lure the Enterprise into a trap. But that's about it.
There people out there who don't think of NuTrek as an alternative universe?
They exist. I recently started writing for WhatCulture.com and my first article (which got me the job) was about how a Klingon animated series would be a good choice because they exist in both universes and I got this comment:
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This guy is an idiot! Enterprise did not happen in the “Abramsverse”, it was a prequal sieries. It took place in the 2150′s. Also, it is the same universe, just a different timeline. And an animated sieries would be a horible idea. The Klingon centered part of it is not a bad idea though.
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Old February 1 2013, 04:22 PM   #143
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You mean the ones that responded to a territorial invasion by just blowing up the outpost on the planet in question up without so much as a you have violated our space communication and then lured the Enterprise into the area and tricked some of its senior officers down to the planet to either capture or kill them, those Gorn?
I agree with Hartzilla2007 on that. From my view, there's so little established about the species that I don't see any continuity harm. We know they're aggressive, slow on physical attacks and crafty enough to lure the Enterprise into a trap. But that's about it.
There people out there who don't think of NuTrek as an alternative universe?
It's an alternate timeline in the same multiverse. The film, the tie-in novels and Word of God all say the timeline split in 2233 when Nero appeared, that they share the same past. That 2233 split wouldn't explain how the Gorn suddenly became extra-galactic conquerors.

"Arena" was a misunderstanding. The Gorn found a human outpost in their territory and had a fit. If they were this ruthless force who'd dominated an entire galaxy, why didn't they do the same to our galaxy? It doesn't fit the peaceful ending of "Arena" or the continuing peace in DS9's time.
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Old February 1 2013, 04:52 PM   #144
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Is there anything canon about the years between TOS and DS9? Who knows what happened? Just because they coul be extra galactic conquerors doesn't negate the possibility of them coming into the galaxy, setting up shop and claiming territory. They could have been building up forces to strike and never did in anything canon, they could have gone against other species, I just don't see anything to this that makes my continuity alarm go off.
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Old February 1 2013, 05:22 PM   #145
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Yeah, I'm probably leaping ahead of myself. And even if not, those in charge are entitled to change their minds.
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Old February 2 2013, 04:19 PM   #146
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http://news.yahoo.com/preview--new-%...035914361.html
Mostly a rehash, but there's some new info in there, including the fact that the campaign is 15 hours and co-op seems to be online only.
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Old February 6 2013, 09:54 PM   #147
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RE: Gorn

Unless it gets specific with times and such it is also possible that the Gorn were once this massive force that came from another galaxy. I mean that could be 10,000 year ago.

Obviously without specifics it is hard to judge but you could easily say something like that since cannon is sparse when it comes to the Gorn. They're like Boba Fett before Episode II that is.
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Old February 7 2013, 03:44 AM   #148
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Anyone know if this game is just a shooter? From the trailer I saw a few pages back it looks like that is what this is.

I wonder if you'll be able to explore, having more of a sand-box/RPG/adventure feel to it?

Anyone know?
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Old February 7 2013, 04:15 AM   #149
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Anyone know if this game is just a shooter? From the trailer I saw a few pages back it looks like that is what this is.

I wonder if you'll be able to explore, having more of a sand-box/RPG/adventure feel to it?

Anyone know?
Shooter combat, exploration of the Enterprise, and RPG style equipment leveling. So it's an adventure game I guess (the genres are melding together so much that it's hard to label stuff now).
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Old February 12 2013, 10:26 PM   #150
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Possible new trailer:
[ur]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnRxRqSxTVU[/url]

The graphics look kind of janky in this one, which worries me after hearing about how bad Aliens: Colonial Marines was. This game cannot afford to be that bad if Trek gaming is to get out of its slump.
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