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Old January 29 2013, 04:18 AM   #46
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Giving her an airplane would be like giving Thor a motorcycle
When he needs to go really fast he puts the hammer down...
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Old January 29 2013, 06:34 AM   #47
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Wonder Woman is a weird character with a weird origin story and weird powers. She worked in a cheesier time, but for her to work now, I think her backstory would have to seriously be re-designed. Daughter of the Gods? Invisible plane? Magic lasso that makes you tell the truth? Just too goofy. I can barely suspend my disbelief when she pops up in cartoons anymore.

I think Catwoman could work well as a live-action series, as she is also a fairly independent character that wouldn't require shoehorning Batman into the story (not that you couldn't).

DC is a boy's club. There are plenty of female Marvel characters that could support their own series, but unfortunately you just don't have that many if you're exclusively looking at the DC Universe.
Most of Marvels female characters can't even support a comic book series, much less one on TV. Have any had the success of Wonder Woman, Catwoman or even Birds of Prey? Marvel has made some strides lately in introducing books starring women, but DC ha been doing it for decades.
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Old January 29 2013, 04:33 PM   #48
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If we're talking name-recognition value, Storm is arguably Marvel's most famous heroine.

Who else is there? She-Hulk?
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Old January 29 2013, 05:00 PM   #49
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Does she have her own version of The Batcave or Fortress Of Solitude?
Not that I know of. If she had a plane, it would have to take off and land like a Harrier jet.

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If we're talking name-recognition value, Storm is arguably Marvel's most famous heroine.

Who else is there? She-Hulk?
I think She-Hulk is your best bet. She's a fascinating character.



And she strikes me as Marvel's equivalent to Wonder Woman.

Found this... Had to post it.

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Old January 29 2013, 10:10 PM   #50
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^ No! That's all wrong!

Why would Wonder Woman be in a dentist's chair?
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Old January 30 2013, 12:00 AM   #51
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And what's with all this nonsense about putting badass women in heels? Do some people really think chicks in boots can't be hot? 'Cause I've been to Boot Camp and several military bases, and they totally can.
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Old January 30 2013, 02:31 AM   #52
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Peter David thought She-Hulk had the potential to be bigger than WW. Of course he then got her book cancelled.
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Old January 30 2013, 06:56 AM   #53
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I think the book was already cancelled and they just gave him the tailspin to run amok in.

I might have to pull them out because I have no recollection of those stories.
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Old January 30 2013, 07:12 AM   #54
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I have no recollection of any She Hulk solo stories. Probably because I never bought them.

I did like her in FF and the Avengers.
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Old January 30 2013, 10:35 AM   #55
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The Dan Slott stuff was wow, and John Byrne during the tun of the 90s with all that Breaking the Fourth wall was hilarious... Santa Clause spent 20 pages hitting on her until in the end the wife shows up and drowns Jennifer's office in Reindeer pellets.
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Old January 30 2013, 03:45 PM   #56
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I think the book was already cancelled and they just gave him the tailspin to run amok in.
No. The book crossed over with Secret Invasion so someone clearly had hopes at keeping the book afloat.
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Old January 30 2013, 04:04 PM   #57
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Is that from an episode of Rizzoli and Isles?
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Old January 30 2013, 04:17 PM   #58
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^ Funny you should mention that. Check out this old thread.
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Old January 30 2013, 04:18 PM   #59
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Is that from an episode of Rizzoli and Isles?
I would watch THAT version of the show.
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Old January 30 2013, 04:34 PM   #60
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Wonder Woman is a weird character with a weird origin story and weird powers. She worked in a cheesier time, but for her to work now, I think her backstory would have to seriously be re-designed. Daughter of the Gods? Invisible plane? Magic lasso that makes you tell the truth? Just too goofy. I can barely suspend my disbelief when she pops up in cartoons anymore.

I think Catwoman could work well as a live-action series, as she is also a fairly independent character that wouldn't require shoehorning Batman into the story (not that you couldn't).

DC is a boy's club. There are plenty of female Marvel characters that could support their own series, but unfortunately you just don't have that many if you're exclusively looking at the DC Universe.
Most of Marvels female characters can't even support a comic book series, much less one on TV. Have any had the success of Wonder Woman, Catwoman or even Birds of Prey? Marvel has made some strides lately in introducing books starring women, but DC ha been doing it for decades.
Both of the major comic companies-heck, just about all of the US comics companies, are boys' clubs. But DC has a much better record regarding supporting their female characters than Marvel has, as NerysMyk pointed out.

For one, they've got the greatest female superhero Wonder Woman, and they've long put out solo and team books starring women, like Birds of Prey, Gotham Sirens, Batgirl, Supergirl, Powergirl, Catwoman. Even Voodoo got a shot in the New 52. So has Amethyst. And there's a new one coming with Katana. Female characters have also played major roles on many of the team books.

Marvel doesn't have a comparable record, especially when it comes to book solos. As Greg Cox pointed out, Storm is their most recognizable female character and yet has never had a solo series. Maybe a miniseries or two, but even with Marvel NOW her character seems to be used to grace book covers but no more. And now you have Captain Marvel, Sif, Red She Hulk, Fearless Defenders, and the all female X-Men squad, but DC is league's ahead of Marvel in putting out books like this. Mostly Marvel's female characters have gained prominence by being parts of ensemble casts.

Granted Marvel has put some female characters out there in solo books or miniseries (Black Widow, Elektra, She-Hulk, Spider Girl, Storm, Ghost Rider, Wolverine's Clone), but the record to me doesn't show they've been as strong about supporting them as DC has. Now we can debate the quality of the works DC has put out, but you can't knock them for at least making the attempts and continuing to make the attempts where female characters are concerned. Though I should give credit to Marvel for seeming to finally be getting on board. However a Storm solo is something they really should've done, especially when the first X-Men movies came out.
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