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Old January 28 2013, 11:54 PM   #496
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It would help if Trek fans would ever get over being butthurt about the fact that Star Wars has been, by far, the premier space science fiction franchise in the theaters since 1977. The least successful of the six Star Wars films made almost 100 million dollars more worldwide than the most successful Star Trek movie.

As far as people buying tickets to the movies are concerned, for over thirty years Star Trek has been in second place - and for most of that time a distant second.
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Old January 28 2013, 11:57 PM   #497
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And even domestically The Empire Strikes Back made $34 million more than Trek '09. Empire is the least successful SW film in American cinemas.
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Old January 29 2013, 12:26 AM   #498
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You're lucky Paramount didn't license the thing out for a cheapo comedy with Jack Black as Kirk and Ben Stein as Spock.
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Old January 29 2013, 12:30 AM   #499
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You're lucky Paramount didn't license the thing out for a cheapo comedy with Jack Black as Kirk and Ben Stein as Spock.
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Old January 29 2013, 12:34 AM   #500
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Well, I'd say in popular culture Star Trek fandom is associated with unemployment, obesity and social incompetence.

FTFY
I've always thought of the stereotypical basement-dwelling fan as being like Bigfoot. Maybe he exists, but I'm not sure anyone has ever actually seen one.

Most of the Trekkies I know have jobs and kids and mortgages like everyone else.
The public perception of us annoys me, too. But I don't pretend it's not there.
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Old January 29 2013, 12:38 AM   #501
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Cheapo comedy, huh?



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Old January 29 2013, 01:37 AM   #502
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Cheapo comedy, huh?

Whatever happened to the double-breasted suit? I loved them. Letterman doesn't even wear one as often as he used to.

On topic (as it's drifted, anyway), who gives a rat's ass about perceptions? And, how conceited (or offended) can we be as fans to even believe there are perceptions, at least not those that we ourselves don't make fun of or pretend (I hope) to live up to? Roll with it. The demographics of TOS made it the "St. Elsewhere" of its time. (Don't know what "St. Elsewhere" was? Then Google it.)

People who got into "24" weren't geeks over that show? Folks actually thought "The Sopranos" was high culture? "Twin Peaks"? "Monty Python"? Let's not even go down the path of the perception of Pythons fans.

It's pop culture. It's fun. It's a cold beer on a hot day. Perfect for the situation, and that's about it.
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Old January 29 2013, 01:52 AM   #503
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I'm not sure I could be friends with anyone who didn't find either of those gags hysterical.
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Old January 29 2013, 02:20 AM   #504
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I'm not sure I could be friends with anyone who didn't find either of those gags hysterical.
"Good God, man!"

Almost made me think, "DeForest, who?" Almost.

My notoriously non-Trek fan wife who dutifully accompanies me to the Trek movies so I don't have to fulfill any stereotype by being a middle aged man going alone -- hey, and she's dragged me to Barry Manilow concerts, so she gets as good as she gives, better, actually -- laughed her ass off at that scene (for the RIGHT reasons).
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Old January 29 2013, 02:54 AM   #505
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Oh, come on, gang. I was only being sarcastic. Didn't mean to cause harm.
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Old January 29 2013, 05:15 AM   #506
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I don't think I have any problems interacting with people in the real world.
Well, you do talk to yourself.
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Old January 29 2013, 10:12 AM   #507
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I don't think I have any problems interacting with people in the real world.
Well, you do talk to yourself.
Don't we all, sometimes?

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Old January 29 2013, 10:40 AM   #508
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It would help if Trek fans would ever get over being butthurt about the fact that Star Wars has been, by far, the premier space science fiction franchise in the theaters since 1977. The least successful of the six Star Wars films made almost 100 million dollars more worldwide than the most successful Star Trek movie.

As far as people buying tickets to the movies are concerned, for over thirty years Star Trek has been in second place - and for most of that time a distant second.
That's a really flawed way of looking at things. Why don't you count the people who watched Star Trek on television? It's like saying the NFL is more successful than MLB because more people watch on average the NFL games than the MLB games, leaving out the fact that MLB has vastly more games a season (162 vs 16).

I mean yes the NFL does make more money than MLB but the point is you framed it in a way that made it more one-sided than it is.

I'm sure Star Wars has made more money if you count everything (toys, tickets, books, etc) than Star Trek but doing a pure movie vs movie comparison is ridiculous.

Star Wars is primarily a movie franchise, Star Trek is more television.
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Old January 29 2013, 01:15 PM   #509
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I'm not sure I could be friends with anyone who didn't find either of those gags hysterical.
I could. And also with those who did find them funny.
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Old January 29 2013, 01:36 PM   #510
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It would help if Trek fans would ever get over being butthurt about the fact that Star Wars has been, by far, the premier space science fiction franchise in the theaters since 1977. The least successful of the six Star Wars films made almost 100 million dollars more worldwide than the most successful Star Trek movie.

As far as people buying tickets to the movies are concerned, for over thirty years Star Trek has been in second place - and for most of that time a distant second.
That's a really flawed way of looking at things. Why don't you count the people who watched Star Trek on television? It's like saying the NFL is more successful than MLB because more people watch on average the NFL games than the MLB games, leaving out the fact that MLB has vastly more games a season (162 vs 16).

I mean yes the NFL does make more money than MLB but the point is you framed it in a way that made it more one-sided than it is.

I'm sure Star Wars has made more money if you count everything (toys, tickets, books, etc) than Star Trek but doing a pure movie vs movie comparison is ridiculous.

Star Wars is primarily a movie franchise, Star Trek is more television.
Legion: Can someone get butthurt from penis envy? I didn't necessarily know so many Trek fans felt that way. Indeed, if it weren't for SW in 1977, we all may have gotten "Star Trek Phase II: The Entire Series", Special Edition, on Blu-Ray for Christmas. Oh, why can't we all just get along?

As far as the popularity of the NFL over MLB goes, panthers34343, poll after poll says NFL football is by far the favorite sport of Americans. College football is second. Major League Baseball is a distant third, down there with the NBA. The freaking joke called the NFL Pro Bowl draws more TV viewers than World Series games and the NBA Finals do.
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