Possible Merger of Star Trek and Star Wars - Page 2

Ovation · January 26 2013, 04:43 PM

Greg Cox wrote:

Doesn't work that way.

I mean, Bryan Singer directed X-Men and Superman, but I don't remember Marvel and DC merging!

Have you forgotten the Amalgam comics event of the mid-90s? Can't get more merged than that. (Not that we should want to revisit that moment.

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EnsignRicky · January 26 2013, 04:46 PM

Begun, The Trek Wars Has.

Christopher · January 26 2013, 04:47 PM

Greg Cox wrote:

I mean, Bryan Singer directed X-Men and Superman, but I don't remember Marvel and DC merging!

For that matter, Richard Donner has been a producer on several of the X-Men films.

Greg Cox · January 26 2013, 05:17 PM

Ovation wrote:

Greg Cox wrote:

Doesn't work that way.

I mean, Bryan Singer directed X-Men and Superman, but I don't remember Marvel and DC merging!

Have you forgotten the Amalgam comics event of the mid-90s? Can't get more merged than that. (Not that we should want to revisit that moment.

)

Oh, I remember that. Just thought that was kinda a footnote at this point!

And, of course, Halle Berry has played both Catwoman and Storm, but universes did not collide!

Gaith · January 26 2013, 06:27 PM

Up next, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles must go deeper in Inception Harder!

Set Harth · January 26 2013, 06:27 PM

Oh no, does this mean the old "Enterprise-D vs. Star Destroyer" debates are going to start up again?

Ovation · January 26 2013, 07:08 PM

Greg Cox wrote:

Ovation wrote:

Greg Cox wrote:

Doesn't work that way.

I mean, Bryan Singer directed X-Men and Superman, but I don't remember Marvel and DC merging!

Have you forgotten the Amalgam comics event of the mid-90s? Can't get more merged than that. (Not that we should want to revisit that moment.

)

Oh, I remember that. Just thought that was kinda a footnote at this point!

And, of course, Halle Berry has played both Catwoman and Storm, but universes did not collide!

And while we can all agree Storm was a better role in a better movie, Catwoman does have the redeeming quality of its costume.

Ahem.

Christopher · January 26 2013, 07:18 PM

Ovation wrote:

And while we can all agree Storm was a better role in a better movie, Catwoman does have the redeeming quality of its costume.

Ahem.

On the contrary, it was an utterly hideous costume. What it revealed was quite spectacular, but the costume itself was atrociously designed, especially the cowl.

Mach5 · January 26 2013, 08:31 PM

Christopher wrote:

On the contrary, it was an utterly hideous costume.

+1

Temis the Vorta · January 26 2013, 08:38 PM

Nobody is going to merge the two. It's like merging McDonalds and Burger King. Sure, they're in the same category and there are similarities but if both can make big bucks as independent brands, why would merging them make more money?

Obviously, it would make less money if there's any difference at all, so nobody is going to be motivated to do it. And why would Disney and Paramount even stop for one millisecond to consider such a thing? They're two rival companies. Corporations do work together, but only when there are big bucks as a motiation and that is hardly the case here.

Admiral Buzzkill · January 26 2013, 08:56 PM

Not a chance in hell.

Christopher · January 26 2013, 09:07 PM

The only case I can think of where a feature film crossed over characters or franchises belonging to two or more different studios was Who Framed Roger Rabbit? -- and it took a lot of effort to get studios like Warner Bros. and Turner Entertainment to agree to share their properties. Oh, and also there was Toy Story 2/3 using Barbie and Ken, something Mattel wouldn't agree to until after the first film was a huge hit. And Wreck-It Ralph has done something similar with video game characters, although they're just cameos.

Of course, in all those cases, it was Disney's clout and wealth that was able to get it done, so if anyone could make it happen with rival space-opera franchises, it would be Disney.

There is the case of Freddy vs. Jason, a crossover of New Line's Nightmare on Elm Street franchise and Paramount's Friday the 13th franchise. But that didn't happen until Paramount lost the rights to Jason and New Line acquired them. So that doesn't count as a real inter-studio crossover.

datalogan · January 26 2013, 10:10 PM

OK, this thread quickly went down the rabbit-hole of discussion about companies and business and capitalism in the real world.

Sorry about that. I do understand the unlikeliness of a merger or cross-over happening.
I was more interested in peoples thoughts about what such a merger might look like (regardless of how unlikely). Guess I should have named the thread better.

My initial guesses were mostly negative, thinking the merger would mess up some of the unique thinks the different franchises focus on.

But a good point was made that it's really all about the characters. It would be interesting to see certain characters intereact.

Kira and Leia
Spock and Yoda
Data and R2D2 / C3PO
Worf vs Darth Vader

etc

Anyone else interested in certain pairings, no matter how unlikely it is that they will ever happen?

Morpheus 02 · January 26 2013, 10:58 PM

i definitely wouldn't want a SERIOUS crossover...but if they had a fun "what if" type of short..whether shown at the end of a movie, or on the web...i think it'd be fun to watch, and great oporunity to promote something serious (and get more hype for the movie).

Also, maybe film a few fun scenes with actors doing the other franchise (like Kirk or Sulu swinging a light saber & Spock using the force)...

or in the OFFICIAL movie, seeing ships form the other franichise in the background (heck, they can even preview ships for the next movie in the current one). They can then release a statement: "There is no official canon explanation or designation for this ship"

Fun cross promotion could only help both...

Gaith · January 26 2013, 11:05 PM

Ahem:

But, seriously... no. Just no.

January 26 2013, 04:46 PM	#17
EnsignRicky Commodore Location: Somewhere Far Beyond	Re: Possible Merger of Star Trek and Star Wars Begun, The Trek Wars Has. __________________ Use Only As Directed

January 26 2013, 06:27 PM	#20
Gaith Rear Admiral Location: Starfleet Command, The City that Knows How	Re: Possible Merger of Star Trek and Star Wars Up next, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles must go deeper in Inception Harder!

January 26 2013, 06:27 PM	#21
Set Harth Commodore Location: Ekkaia	Re: Possible Merger of Star Trek and Star Wars Oh no, does this mean the old "Enterprise-D vs. Star Destroyer" debates are going to start up again? __________________ Are you casting aspersions on my asparagus?

January 26 2013, 08:38 PM	#25
Temis the Vorta Fleet Admiral Location: Tatoinne	Re: Possible Merger of Star Trek and Star Wars Nobody is going to merge the two. It's like merging McDonalds and Burger King. Sure, they're in the same category and there are similarities but if both can make big bucks as independent brands, why would merging them make more money? Obviously, it would make less money if there's any difference at all, so nobody is going to be motivated to do it. And why would Disney and Paramount even stop for one millisecond to consider such a thing? They're two rival companies. Corporations do work together, but only when there are big bucks as a motiation and that is hardly the case here.

January 26 2013, 08:56 PM	#26
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Possible Merger of Star Trek and Star Wars Not a chance in hell. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

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January 26 2013, 09:07 PM	#27
Christopher Writer	Re: Possible Merger of Star Trek and Star Wars The only case I can think of where a feature film crossed over characters or franchises belonging to two or more different studios was Who Framed Roger Rabbit? -- and it took a lot of effort to get studios like Warner Bros. and Turner Entertainment to agree to share their properties. Oh, and also there was Toy Story 2/3 using Barbie and Ken, something Mattel wouldn't agree to until after the first film was a huge hit. And Wreck-It Ralph has done something similar with video game characters, although they're just cameos. Of course, in all those cases, it was Disney's clout and wealth that was able to get it done, so if anyone could make it happen with rival space-opera franchises, it would be Disney. There is the case of Freddy vs. Jason, a crossover of New Line's Nightmare on Elm Street franchise and Paramount's Friday the 13th franchise. But that didn't happen until Paramount lost the rights to Jason and New Line acquired them. So that doesn't count as a real inter-studio crossover. __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Includes purchasing links for Only Superhuman, on sale now! Updated 12/30/12 with annotations for the novel. Written Worlds -- My blog

January 26 2013, 10:10 PM	#28
datalogan Lieutenant Commander Location: Seattle, WA	Re: Possible Merger of Star Trek and Star Wars OK, this thread quickly went down the rabbit-hole of discussion about companies and business and capitalism in the real world. Sorry about that. I do understand the unlikeliness of a merger or cross-over happening. I was more interested in peoples thoughts about what such a merger might look like (regardless of how unlikely). Guess I should have named the thread better. My initial guesses were mostly negative, thinking the merger would mess up some of the unique thinks the different franchises focus on. But a good point was made that it's really all about the characters. It would be interesting to see certain characters intereact. Kira and Leia Spock and Yoda Data and R2D2 / C3PO Worf vs Darth Vader etc Anyone else interested in certain pairings, no matter how unlikely it is that they will ever happen?

January 26 2013, 10:58 PM	#29
Morpheus 02 Commodore Location: Chicago IL	Re: Possible Merger of Star Trek and Star Wars i definitely wouldn't want a SERIOUS crossover...but if they had a fun "what if" type of short..whether shown at the end of a movie, or on the web...i think it'd be fun to watch, and great oporunity to promote something serious (and get more hype for the movie). Also, maybe film a few fun scenes with actors doing the other franchise (like Kirk or Sulu swinging a light saber & Spock using the force)... or in the OFFICIAL movie, seeing ships form the other franichise in the background (heck, they can even preview ships for the next movie in the current one). They can then release a statement: "There is no official canon explanation or designation for this ship" Fun cross promotion could only help both... __________________ Morpheus 02 a.k.a. JP Paulus jp [at] paulus . com

January 26 2013, 11:05 PM	#30
Gaith Rear Admiral Location: Starfleet Command, The City that Knows How	Re: Possible Merger of Star Trek and Star Wars Ahem: But, seriously... no. Just no.