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[Enterprise is Great]

I'm sure they'll explain why over the course of the season. I'm sure that they didn't want to blow that wad right away in the pilot.

[bigdaddy]

Yeah. It's really not that big of a deal. He killed people because he thought it was beautiful.

Or maybe he started killing when Kevin Bacon's character started banging his wife.

[sojourner]

The killings started before Bacon's character met the wife. He met with her to consult on motivation.

[davejames]

Starbreaker wrote:

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I thought it was ok. I watch a lot of crime dramas, and I was thoroughly underwhelmed by this. For something that's been getting a lot of press and has Kevin Bacon, I just expected a lot more.

Same here. It's certainly well made and looks great... but I'm just freakin bored to death of serial killers by now, and watching damaged cops/detectives/agents chase them down with their super sexy partners and quirky, comic relief tech guys.

It's nothing I haven't seen in a thousand other cop shows and movies.

[Roger Wilco]

stj wrote:

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Yet another villain whose plan is to get captured. I'm so past being able to accept that one it's not funny. I'm going to try the second pilot, i.e., the first regular series episode. Purefoy doesn't convince us that he's smart enough to plan this crap. And since he's apparently just going to rant and emote at Kevin Bacon, the show is going to rise or fall on its temp characters, the titular Following, the Carroll cultists. If they're believable and interesting, the show might overcome its bloodlust. The gore is a turnoff, it's not entertaining.

His "plan" wasn't getting captured. Realistically, getting captured is inevitable for someone like him, in the USA in 2013, so he accepted that from the start, after doing what he set out to do.

I'm not fully buying into the show yet either though.

[degra]

not very good. Pretty standard cop show stuff,,,drunk troubled cop, a villain who has a personal axe to grind with his pursuer, bland supporting cast of cop characters, obvious twists like the child being really ryans and next week we get the shrink to analyze everyone. Yawn,,,the critics raved over this I guess their standards have been lowered by the years of crap networks have churned out that any mediocre drek like this seems like Shakespeare to them.

[Borgminister]

Upgraded to guilty pleasure... but not much more. Remake of Cape Fear was much better.

[bigdaddy]

My love for the show is fading. When the bad guy cop got past 50 cops again I almost shut it off. The did that in the first episode, they do it again I'm gone.

[Eduardo]

About the end of the episode, I think that the guy that was set on fire said something on the phone about "Talk to my editor", before going to the food stand.

My bet? One of the people that gave a bad review to Carroll's book.

[degra]

watched the second episode it was just as stale and formulaic as the pilot,,,I'm not wasting anymore time on just another crime drama that brings absolutely nothing new.

this has been a horrible tv season,,,there is nothing worth watching,,,I guess that just leaves do no harm and cult,,,hopefully they will be entertaining.

[jayceee]

degra wrote:

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not very good. Pretty standard cop show stuff,,,drunk troubled cop, a villain who has a personal axe to grind with his pursuer, bland supporting cast of cop characters, obvious twists like the child being really ryans and next week we get the shrink to analyze everyone. Yawn,,,the critics raved over this I guess their standards have been lowered by the years of crap networks have churned out that any mediocre drek like this seems like Shakespeare to them.

My first thought, was that this show was "too little too late".

I probably could have got into this show if it was on a decade ago, before a huge proliferation of other procedural shows (ie. CSI franchise expansions, NCIS franchise, Criminal Minds, The Closer, Lie To Me, etc ...). Back then, I thought the Law & Order franchise expanding to SVU and Criminal Intent, was already too much for me to follow.

degra wrote:

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watched the second episode it was just as stale and formulaic as the pilot,,,I'm not wasting anymore time on just another crime drama that brings absolutely nothing new.

this has been a horrible tv season,,,there is nothing worth watching,,,I guess that just leaves do no harm and cult,,,hopefully they will be entertaining.

I would have to agree too, of this season's shows I watch and/or tried to watch.


- Fringe season 5 seemed kinda lackluster, with very little to no resemblance to previous seasons.

- Nikita season 3 doesn't seem as exciting as season 2.

- Hawaii Five-0 season 3 seems like it's repeating the same formula over and over the entire time. (Sorta like Dukes of Hazzard cranking out the same formula over and over again for seven seasons back in the early 1980's).

- Person of Interest season 2 seems kinda lackluster, compared to season 1. (I thought season 1 was outstanding).

[bigdaddy]

The ratings went up. The first show of the year to have better ratings in it's second episode than the first.

[degra]

yep, Jaycee. Vampire diaries this season already cemented what I already knew last season that it sucks under Julie plec. Supernatural hasn't been entertaining since season five. Nashville sucked,,,soaps are suppose to be fun and exciting not a bore.

it seems tv anymore recycles formula we've seen before and better ten or twenty years ago or they are convoluted serialized dramas with a premise that is far too limiting,,,deception, revolution, last resort, Alcatraz, the event etc.

[jayceee]

degra wrote:

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it seems tv anymore recycles formula we've seen before and better ten or twenty years ago

Some of these formulas from ten or twenty years ago, were not always better or even good in hindsight. Sometimes stuff which I thought was cool when I was younger, turned out to be kinda mundane or even outright boring when I watch them now. Nostalgia is not always what it turns out to be.

[bigdaddy]

degra wrote:

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yep, Jaycee. Vampire diaries this season already cemented what I already knew last season that it sucks under Julie plec. Supernatural hasn't been entertaining since season five. Nashville sucked,,,soaps are suppose to be fun and exciting not a bore.

it seems tv anymore recycles formula we've seen before and better ten or twenty years ago or they are convoluted serialized dramas with a premise that is far too limiting,,,deception, revolution, last resort, Alcatraz, the event etc.

I suggest Scandal, it's loads of crazy soapy fun.