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Old January 24 2013, 03:05 AM   #31
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Re: What the hell is McCoy doing on the bridge?

"I'm a doctor, not a psychiatrist."
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Old January 24 2013, 03:12 AM   #32
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I think TNG had it right with Dr. Crusher. Yeah, I get that Dr. McCoy has a full time staff and doesn't have to treat every injury but that really doesn't answer the question why he is hanging out on the bridge all the time. If he was really meant to be there then why doesn't he have a station instead of hanging over the railing in Kirk's blindside. That would annoy me. I really don't buy the reasoning that he has to hang out on the bridge to make sure the old crew doesn't crack under the stress.

There are thousands of things a CMO could be doing with his time. How about writing papers about the countless new beings you have encountered and documenting the situations. That on top of the administrative responsibility of running a sickbay would be more than enough to keep him busy.
Sorry, after seven seasons I must have missed something. Just how did TNG get it right with Dr. Crusher.
With regards to her character, yeah she didn't have a whole lot to offer. I'm talking about the fact that she was a noted medical scholar that several times mentioned some form of research she was doing or some seminar she attended. She did this from her office...in sickbay...not the bridge.
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Old January 24 2013, 03:54 AM   #33
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Old January 24 2013, 03:55 AM   #34
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Re: What the hell is McCoy doing on the bridge?

And again, realism (where McCoy "should be") and Star Trek are hardly "chums together". If realism is what one seeks, one should seek it elsewhere. McCoy was on the bridge because that's where the writers wanted one of the "big three" to be at many different moments. As for an "in-universe" explanation, well…if I started to count all the times people didn't seem to be where they "should be" in various iterations of Trek, I'd have to give up breathing as too distracting.
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Old January 24 2013, 03:58 AM   #35
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The only time it really stood out that McCoy was where he shouldn't be was in STVI. The ship was in combat, with great bloody holes being blown through her, and where's the chief surgeon? RIGGING TORPEDOES!
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Old January 24 2013, 04:00 AM   #36
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I think TNG had it right with Dr. Crusher.
But McCoy had better lines.

"Damnit, I'm doctor, not a bricklayer!"
and so much more talent and charisma.
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Old January 24 2013, 04:01 AM   #37
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Re: What the hell is McCoy doing on the bridge?

There were enough doctor shows on at the time, it was sort of a relief that McCoy's scenes weren't always in sickbay.
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Old January 24 2013, 04:01 AM   #38
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Well, as a surgeon, he did have the necessary "steady hands" for the delicate work of rigging torpedos.

(nah, it's not even convincing to myself as an excuse--he was there as his last heroic act onscreen, reasons by damned)
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Old January 24 2013, 04:09 AM   #39
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I have been troubled in recent weeks by Doctor McCoy's continuing presence on the bridge, when he should be in sickbay. This becomes particularly aggregious in "Who Mourns for Adonis" when the Enterprise has been stopped in space by the giant hand. An SOS message has been relayed to Starfleet, damage control reports are coming in, and there's McCoy on the bridge, saying "Sick Bay reports five minor injuries, all being treated."

WELL??? Why aren't you IN sickbay, McCoy, treating those injuries??

McCoy seems to spend more time on the bridge counseling/coaching Captain Kirk than he does practicing medicine in sick bay.

It happens again in Squire of Gothos, after the crew has beamed back up to the ship. The Enterprise is dodging the planet Gothos, Kirk is on the bridge when he decides to confront Trelane, and suddenly McCoy leaps out of literally nowhere with "Captain, you're not beaming down!!??"

What the devil? I would welcome any other examples of sitings of this intrusive medical officer on the bridge at inappropriate times, in dereliction of duty.

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At least he isn't sitting right next to Kirk full time with next to nothing of substance to add show after show.....like some kind of token ship's counselor.
But without Deanna, Picard would never have known when the aliens were in pain, or lying...
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Old January 24 2013, 04:45 AM   #40
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Awww..man, I had a witty rejoinder for the "I recognize the accoutrements"...on second thought, it wasn't so witty.

Re: the New Voyages reference: That's funny that is mentioned, because I was going to comment on a different short story in the same book. In "Mind-Sifter", Spock (having taken command) makes some sort of comment about McCoy would probably be best served in Sickbay, and McCoy doesn't appear on the bridge again for several months unless required.
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Old January 24 2013, 04:52 AM   #41
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No, but I am. Knock that crap off.
Awww..man, I had a witty rejoinder for the "I recognize the accoutrements"...on second thought, it wasn't so witty.
I should have known better in the first place.
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Old January 24 2013, 04:55 AM   #42
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Re: the New Voyages reference: That's funny that is mentioned, because I was going to comment on a different short story in the same book. In "Mind-Sifter", Spock (having taken command) makes some sort of comment about McCoy would probably be best served in Sickbay, and McCoy doesn't appear on the bridge again for several months unless required.
You're thinking of "Mind-Sifter." That's always been one of my favorite short stories - and it did start out as fanfic. I saw a different version online (presumably the original, before it was edited for professional publication).
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Old January 24 2013, 11:17 AM   #43
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Re: What the hell is McCoy doing on the bridge?

All the best looking chicks were on the bridge. That's why he spent so much time hanging around up there.

I like to imagine he was a bit like Snoopy as 'Joe Cool' in those old Peanuts comic strips: wearing a pair of shades, leaning against a bulkhead, saying to himself "Here's Joe McCoy, hanging around the dorm eyeing all the beautiful chicks -- who loves ya, sweetie?"
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Old January 24 2013, 05:07 PM   #44
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Making for better TV drama.
That's right. We want to see DeForest Kelley interacting with Shatner and Nimoy and the other actors, not just hear a disembodied, filtered voice from the intercom.
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Old January 24 2013, 05:18 PM   #45
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Re: What the hell is McCoy doing on the bridge?

SHIP'S MEDICAL LOG - CHIEF SURGEON McCOY - CONFIDENTIAL:

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Mission year 1: During one of our very first voyages, the captain was FREAKING SPLIT IN TWO! One was like all wimpy and stuff, but the other half attempted rape. We managed to glue him back together, but damn! Now I'm going to have to watch him all the time in case he splits again. I'll need to be on the bridge, when I should instead be in sickbay.

Mission year 2: Okay, just the fifth mission out and our first officer turns all salmon has has to go upstream to Vulcan and spawn. I was just going to give him Prozac, but no, he gets brain fever or something and tries to kill the captain with a Vulcan necktie. Need I add that now I'm going to have to be on the bridge even MORE, in case the urge comes back? And guess who doesn't get a raise for all the extra work... Hold on, computer, prepare to pause recording: a super-powerful space robot the size of a Hoover just took away the comm officers's mind. Including her security clearances. We're reinstalling it all, but who knows what happened to the codes? Sigh. Back to the bridge full-time AGAIN. I'm a doctor, not a security guard!

Mission year 3: As if I wasn't practically married to the bridge already, on our very first mission this year I had to reinstall the first officer's freaking BRAIN! Do you have any idea how many months of damn near full-time therapy that's going to require? Hmmm, and guess which fleet has never given yours truly a good budget to hire more staff? The captain wanted me to move in with the pointy-eared #&$#* to keep an eye on him 24/7, but he let me off with simply being on the bridge nearly every mission. Like that's a big treat? He still won't give me my own chair! Everyone else on the freaking bridge gets a chair, even Ensign Leslie, who I swear has spoken aboard ship only once. But nooooo, I'm stuck again leaning on the railings, like some hunched goof.

Anyway, I tried to get the captain drunk, like I always do, but -- major fail. He refused to budge.

I swear, when we get back to earth I'm going to grow a beard and go camping.

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